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Re: [ontolog-forum] The Relation Between Logic and Ontology in Metaphysi

To: "Steve Newcomb" <srn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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From: "Peter Yim" <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:40:43 -0800
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Steve,    (01)

Hi! Thank you for the post.    (02)

... May I cordially request that you refrain from including your
footnote when posting to this forum, as it is not directly relevant to
the issue being discussed.  I hope we continue to pursue our
professional discourse and stay away from politics as much as we can.    (03)

Regards.  =ppy    (04)

Peter Yim
Co-convener, Ontolog
--    (05)

On 15 Mar 2007 20:59:42 -0400, Steve Newcomb <srn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Christopher Menzel <cmenzel@xxxxxxxx> writes:
> > > The most recent issue of "the review of Metaphysics" (March 2007, Vol.
> > > LX, No. 3, Issue No. 239) arrived yesterday and has the following
> > > article by Charlotta Weigelt: "The Relation Between Logic and Ontology
> > > in Metaphyics."
> >
> > Well, far be it from me to play metaphysics cop here and presume to
> > dictate what folks ought to study vis-a-vis the subject matter of
> > this forum, but Weigelt is a Heidegger scholar, and Heidegger's
> > (frequent) use of both "logic" and "ontology" have about as much to
> > do with formal reasoning and formal ontology as they do with, say,
> > making a fluffy soufflé.  (Come to think of it, they probably have
> > less to do with the former than the latter.)
> >
> > Chris Menzel
> I'm impressed by your erudition, but I question the wisdom of any
> prejudice regarding the distinction between the study of formalisms
> and the study of being.  Seems to me that there have been times when
> students of formalisms have been surprised to discover their practical
> applications, and in the other direction, the study of nature has
> yielded quite a harvest of formal expressions famous for their
> practical usefulness.
> Or maybe your point is that we, here, constitute a community that
> should not use the term "ontology" in the normal English sense, but
> only in the specialized computer sense.  If that's your agenda, OK,
> but what term shall we use for "the metaphysical study of the nature
> of being and existence", or for its twin and handmaiden, the study of
> identity and the art of its representation?  I can't believe that your
> agenda is to deprive us of a way to talk about these things, thereby
> to limit the scope of our discussions!
> -- Steve
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