OpenOntologyRepository: OOR Code Development Workshop (n.10) - Tue 2013_12_10    (42OS)

Topic: Ontohub at OOR: Should the OOR code be based on Ontohub?    (42OT)

Session Co-Chairs: TillMossakowski and KenBaclawski    (42OU)

Conference Call Details:    (42OV)

Attendees:    (42PR)

Agenda Ideas:    (42Q2)

In-session Resources    (42QL)

Agenda & Proceedings    (42QP)

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1. Meeting called to order:    (42QU)

2. Roll Call:    (42QZ)

3. Key discussion:    (42R2)

3.1 Briefing: TillMossakowski ... (slides)    (42R3)

3.2 Open discussion: "Should the OOR code be based on Ontohub?"    (42R4)

4. IM Chat Transcript captured during the session:    (42RD)

 see raw transcript here.    (42RF)
 (for better clarity, the version below is a re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript.)
 Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.    (42RG)
 -- begin in-session chat-transcript --    (42RH)
	Chat transcript from room: oor_20131210
	2013-12-10 GMT-08:00 [PST]
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	[7:00] PeterYim: Welcome to the    (42VQ)
	 = OpenOntologyRepository: OOR Code Development Workshop (n.10) - Tue 2013_12_10 =    (42VR)
	Topic: Ontohub at OOR: : Should the OOR code be based on Ontohub?    (42VS)
	Session Co-Chairs: TillMossakowski and KenBaclawski    (42VT)
	Logistics:    (42VU)
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	Attendees: TillMossakowski (co-chair), KenBaclawski (co-chair), AleksandraSojic, MichaelGruninger, OliverKutz, PaulAlexander, PeterYim (scribe).    (42VZ)
	 == Proceedings ==    (42W0)
	[7:03] anonymous morphed into PaulAlexander    (42W1)
	[7:06] PeterYim: == TillMossakowski and KenBaclawski starts the session    (42W2)
	[7:07] PeterYim: == Till makes presentation on Ontohub - see slides 
	at:    (42W3)
	[7:25] TillMossakowski: (in response to question from Ken on the availability of the installation instructions) 
	see:    (42W4)
	[7:29] PeterYim: Till: federation will be a feature in the future ... for now, mirroring of git instances is supported    (42W5)
	[7:53] PeterYim: I strongly urge a healthy dialog between the Ontohub / OOR team and the (BioPortal) team ... especially towards setting up 
	an agenda to interface, integrate and federating content of repositories based on these two code-bases in the future    (42W6)
	[7:55] TillMossakowski: Paul: rack is the useful level for speaking with BioPortal.    (42W7)
	[7:56] TillMossakowski: Paul: the triple store is not recommended as a production-level interface. It is more for simple SparQL queries.    (42W8)
	[7:57] TillMossakowski: Paul: The API is being moved to a new version, and it is highly optimized.    (42W9)
	[7:58] TillMossakowski: Paul: some rack middleware (run on both systems) could provide a common interface to program against internally    (42WA)
	[7:59] TillMossakowski: Paul: this would be a more fine-grained integration than just the REST API    (42WB)
	[8:00] TillMossakowski: on the other hand, the RESTful API is already there and requires no extra programming    (42WC)
	[8:02] TillMossakowski: Paul: the API should only give you ontologies that don't have legal issues    (42WD)
	[8:02] PeterYim: Paul: access to IPR encumbered content from BioPortal will not be supported through the API    (42WE)
	[8:03] PaulAlexander: BioPortal v4.0 REST service:    (42WF)
	[8:07] PaulAlexander: BioPortal v4.0 Documentation:    (42WG)
	[8:07] PaulAlexander: BioPortal v4.0 REST API Ruby client:    (42WH)
	[8:01] PeterYim: would it be possible to schedule, say, quarterly session to align API's and other pertinent issues 
	(integration, federation, etc.) between the two teams?    (42WI)
	[8:15] PeterYim: where do we stand on implementing the mandatory capture of ontology metadata when content is uploaded 
	... and "gatekeeping" in general    (42WJ)
	[8:20] PeterYim: I am also concerned that, while both the OOR software license (Simplified BSD)[1] and the Ontohub software license (AGPL)[2] 
	are open source, the former (Simplified BSD) is a "gift" License, and the latter (AGPL) is a "reciprocal" license. I hope they can be aligned 
	... [1] see: 
	... [2] ref.:    (42WP)
	[8:20] TillMossakowski: anyone who would want to commercialize the Ontohub software are welcome to talk to us.    (42WQ)
	[8:20] PeterYim: @Till, I will try to talk to you offline (as I do hope the original spirit of the IPR Policy is maintained.)    (42WR)
	[8:23] TillMossakowski: Michael, please see    (42WK)
	[8:24] TillMossakowski: this is about the tree view of repositories in Ontohub    (42WL)
	[8:25] PeterYim: to allow team members to support OntologySummit2014, the OOR regular meetings will be paused between now and the 
	end of the Summit. Therefore, the next regular OOR meeting will be in may 2104.    (42WM)
	[8:26] PeterYim: hope Ontohub has a strong representation in the OntologySummit2014 organizing team (Oliver?)    (42WN)
	[8:26] PeterYim: -- session ended: 8:26am PST --    (42WO)
 -- end in-session chat-transcript --    (42RI)

5. Action items:    (42RJ)

6. Any Other Business:    (42RL)

7. Schedule Next Meeting & Adjourn:    (42RO)

 notes taken by: PeterYim / 2013.12.10-12:29pm PST
 All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity of the documented proceedings.    (42RT)

Resources    (42RU)