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Re: [uos-convene] UOS Agenda and Logistical Details

To: Upper Ontology Summit convention <uos-convene@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: "John A. Bateman" <bateman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 20:40:13 +0100
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Hi Pat,    (01)

> I think that we cannot assume that just because someone has been 
> exposed to arguments about the importance of upper ontologies, s/he 
> will have understood the point.  Even worse, we cannot assume that 
> someone who has access to, or been pointed to, discussions of the 
> need for upper ontologies has even read such discussions, let alone 
> understood them.  The issues are apparently complex enough that they
>  need to be phrased as simply and  succinctly as possible, and be 
> accompanied by pointers to examples illustrating how UOs can benefit
>  users.    (02)

good points, clearly important and true. Sigh.    (03)

> The answer, of course, is that having more than one upper-level 
> ontology makes accurate and automated semantic interoperability 
> impossible (or in the more cautious words of the  joint communiqué 
> draft):    (04)

Yes, this will need to be more cautious (or rather, more
precise)... I suspect it will
be a question of definitions in the end, as we have already
skirted around in discussions and in wordings. That can be
part of the technical discussion though.    (05)

[Nicola]
> and is definitely against common UO. Explaining him the role of
> axiomatic ontologies is probably more important than convincing him
> on the utility of a common ontology....    (06)

I think this supports comments I made, and John Sowa too I think,
about the kind of (justified) skepticism that is going to be
run into as soon as 'upper ontology' is understood as a singleton
set of a single grand theory. I stand by that as being more
closely related to religious discourse than I am confortable with!    (07)

Best,
John B.    (08)

P.S.    (09)

do you have the original source of the following? I
have tried to find a documentable source a few times and
gave up...    (010)

> This recalls Einstein's dictum:   "A theory should be made as simple 
> as possible, but no simpler. "    (011)

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