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[mailto:oor-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lee Feigenbaum
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Subject: Re: [oor-forum] Defining "Ontology Repository" (maybe
"OntologyRegistry" too) for the OOR Initiative (03)
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Peter Yim wrote:
> We now have two candidate definitions to adopt:
>
> * Candidate-(A): the definition of "ontology repository" for the OOR
>initiative
>
> "An ontology repository is a facility where ontologies and related
> information artifacts can be stored, retrieved and managed."
>
> * Candidate-(B): the definition of "ontology repository" and "ontology
> registry" for the OOR initiative
>
> "An ontology repository is a facility or facilities where ontology
> related artifacts may be persisted and retrieved."
> and,
> "An ontology registry is where metadata can be declared governing
> the storage, semantics, ownership and access policies for artifacts
> persisted in the ontology repository."
>
> ALL: please cast your vote by replying to this thread and indicate
> (A), (B) or "abstain." Voting closes at 8:30am PST / 11:30am EST /
> 16:30 UTC on Thu 2008.02.07
>
>
> Thanks & regards. =ppy
>
> P.S. Rex and Ken, please cast your vote again, sorry. =ppy
> --
>
>
> On Feb 5, 2008 5:35 AM, <dbedford@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Peter,
>>
>> Correct.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Denise
>
>
> On Feb 5, 2008 4:05 AM, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Thank you, Denise. I assume that is for Duane's motion he made in:
>>
>>
>> Duane Nickull wrote Feb 4, 2008 10:32 AM PST,
>> //
>>
>> Motion made to adopt these definitions instead:
>>
>> 1. An Ontology repository is a facility or facilities where ontology related
>> artifacts may be persisted and retrieved.
>>
>> 2. An Ontology Registry is where metadata can be declared governing the
>> storage, semantics, ownership and access policies for artifacts persisted in
>> the ontology repository.
>>
>> //
>>
>> (please let us know otherwise.)
>>
>> Thanks & regards. =ppy
>>
>> P.S. since I have other commitments today, I will not be able to make a
>> post (about the next step in the process) right after the previously
>> discussed cut-off time for submitting new candidate definitions, but will
>> only be able to post about that later in the day. That cut-off time is still
>> in effect, though (since no one objected yesterday.) Please note. Tx. =ppy
>> --
>
>> On Feb 5, 2008 3:41 AM, <dbedford@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> All,
>>>
>>> I second Duane's motion so we can move forward to vote.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Denise
>
>
> On Feb 4, 2008 2:53 PM, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> As mentioned previously, I was hoping we could summarily adopt the
>> motion that has been outstanding so we could move ahead with the
>> initiative and do something concrete.
>>
>> I am equally as happy that there are some last minute input, but hope
>> we can wrap this up soon enough, to be fair to those who had actually
>> spend time at the meeting to discuss the subject matter, and voiced
>> their opinion within the time set aside for discussion.
>>
>> Unless there are objections, let us try to close this (the discussion
>> and possible new motions) and line up all the motion(s) (included
>> seconded ones) for a vote by 8:16am PST / 11:16am EST / 16:16 UTC
>> tomorrow 2008.02.05 (i.e. 1-day after we originally meant to start
>> voting.)
>>
>> Thanks & regards. =ppy
>>
>> P.S. by the way, there is still only one motion out there, stiil. =ppy
>> --
>
>
>
>> On Feb 4, 2008 10:32 AM, Duane Nickull <dnickull@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Motion made to adopt these definitions instead:
>
>>> 1. An Ontology repository is a facility or facilities where ontology related
>>> artifacts may be persisted and retrieved.
>>>
>>> 2. An Ontology Registry is where metadata can be declared governing the
>>> storage, semantics, ownership and access policies for artifacts persisted in
>>> the ontology repository.
>>>
>>> Any seconders?
>>>
>>> Duane
>
>
>> On Feb 4, 2008 9:06 AM, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Denise and Duane,
>>>
>>> I appreciate your new input.
>>>
>>> Since we have moved beyond the debate/discussion window[1], and your
>>> proposals are clear enough to not require much further discourse, may
>>> I suggest you each make a formal motion, and get a second to your
>>> proposed definition, and we move forward from there (and have people
>>> vote on them.)
>>>
>>> [1] ref.
>>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/oor-forum/2008-01/msg00018.html#nid05
>>> &
>>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/oor-forum/2008-02/msg00000.html#nid02
>>>
>>> Thanks & regards. =ppy
>>> --
>
>
>>> On Feb 4, 2008 8:16 AM, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Since we have not received alternate candidates, there is only one
>>>> candidate definition put forth, by the attendees of the 23-Jan-2008
>>>> OOR Founding Members meeting, for "Ontology Repository," which reads:
>>>>
>>>> "An ontology repository is a facility where ontologies and related
>>>> information artifacts can be stored, retrieved and managed."
>>>>
>>>> We will open this up for voting (please do so by responding to this
>>>> thread) in the next 48 hours (two working-days.)
>>>>
>>>> Let us try to get general consent and summarily adopt this if we can:
>>>> ... If we do not receive two (2) or more objections to adopting the
>>>> above, we will summarily adopt this definition for the
>>>> OpenOntologyRepository (OOR) initiative. If there are two (2) or more
>>>> people objecting to the adoption, we will put it to a vote, and
>>>> require a two-third majority (given it's importance) to adopt this
>>>> definition.
>>>>
>>>> (While declaring positive support is always welcomed, if you are not
>>>> raising an "objection" you do not necessarily have to cast your vote
>>>> of support at this point.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks & regards. =ppy
>>>>
>>>> P.S. since we are doing this for the first time here, any
>>>> comments/suggestions on the process is also welcomed. I am just going
>>>> by what we usually do at ONTOLOG. =ppy
>>>> --
>
>
>>>> On Feb 4, 2008 7:29 AM, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> Thank you, ...[snip]...
>>>>>
>>>>> Focusing on the subject matter (i.e. trying to get a (set of) definition
>adopted), do we have:
>>>>>
>>>>> (a) alternate candidate definition(s) that anyone else want to put forth
>for "Ontology Repository" ?
>>>>>
>>>>> (b) any other definitions one may want to propose for adoption together
>with "Ontology Repository" (maybe "OntologyRegistry" ?) as a set?
>>>>>
>>>>> Please bring it up now (and quickly, along with someone to second the
>motion). We will be putting the whole subject matter to a vote in 20 minutes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks & regards. =ppy
>>>>> --
>
>
>>>>> On Feb 4, 2008 1:43 AM, Dennis Nicholson <d.m.nicholson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> ...[snip]...
>>>>>> I'm sending this to you for information ...[snip]...
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>>>> Dennis Nicholson
>
>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: oor-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> [mailto:oor-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Yim
>>>>>> Sent: 01 February 2008 15:48
>>>>>> To: OpenOntologyRepository-discussion
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [oor-forum] Defining "Ontology Repository" (maybe
>>>>>> "OntologyRegistry" too) for the OOR Initiative
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The seven days we set aside for discussion has come and gone, and 16 or
>so
>>>>>> exchanges were made on the subject matter. It is about time to bring
>this to
>>>>>> closure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So far we still have only one (well formed) proposed candidate for our
>>>>>> definition of "Ontology Repository," and that is:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Candidate-(A): "An ontology repository is a facility where
>>>>>> ontologies and related information artifacts can be stored, retrieved and
>>>>>> managed."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll wait 3 calendar days for anyone to propose and second other
>candidates.
>>>>>> Past this time next Monday 2008.02.04, we will put things to a vote.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I concur with Lee that:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lee Feigenbaum wrote an 23, 2008 10:08 PM EST
>>>>>>> [LF] there was a consensus understanding in general of the
>>>>>>> distinction between a repository and a registry -- if we agree on a
>>>>>>> definition for a repository (which is our end goal, if I understand
>>>>>>> the project correctly :-), then perhaps we do not need to belabor a
>>>>>>> definition of ontology registry as well
>>>>>> I think the documented discussion during our Jan-23 meeting on what a
>>>>>> "registry" is (ref.
>>>>>>
>http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_01_23#nid17U
>>>>>> R
>>>>>> ) is enough to allow us to move forward.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Therefore, if you have alternative candidate definitions for "Ontology
>>>>>> Repository", please response to this message and make a motion for its
>>>>>> adoption by this team. Please try to find someone to second your motion
>too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks & regards. =ppy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P.S. Once again, I hope we can just summarily adopt the above definition
>>>>>> (if there are no alternative proposals, and no objections) and go
>forward.
>>>>>> =ppy
>>>>>> --
>
>
>>>>>> On Jan 23, 2008 12:02 PM, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>> In particular, were made an attempt (and came close) to adopting a
>>>>>>>> definition for "ontology repository" (possibly even "ontology
>>>>>>>> registry"), but decided to put this up for asynchronous discussion
>>>>>>>> deliberation due to time constraints.
>>>>>>> Ref.
>>>>>>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_01_23#
>>>>>>> nid17US
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We were close ... (and have got to):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "An ontology repository is a facility where ontologies and related
>>>>>>> information artifacts can be stored, retrieved and managed."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let's open this up for discussion and then put it to a vote after 7
>>>>>>> calendar days (from the time-stamp of this message).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Feel free to attempt defining "ontology registry" or "registry" too.
>>>>>>> If we are getting close, we'll adopt that as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks & regards. =ppy
>>>>>>> --
>
>
>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>> From: Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Date: Jan 23, 2008 11:55 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [oor-forum] Founding Members Meeting of the Open Ontology
>>>>>>> Repository (OOR) Initiative - Wed 2008.01.23
>>>>>>> To: oor-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We had a very fruitful meeting today, thanks to all who were able to
>join
>>>>>> us.
>>>>>>> For those who were able to call in, the proceedings are captured at
>>>>>>> the session page at:
>>>>>>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_01_23
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In particular, were made an attempt (and came close) to adopting a
>>>>>>> definition for "ontology repository" (possibly even "ontology
>>>>>>> registry"), but decided to put this up for asynchronous discussion
>>>>>>> deliberation due to time constraints. (I'll start a thread on this in
>>>>>>> a moment.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Very encouraging is the fact that the NIST-Ontology-NCOR-...
>>>>>>> co-organized "OntologySummit2008" has adopted "Toward An Open Ontology
>>>>>>> Repository" as the main theme this year. We are looking forward to
>>>>>>> bootstrap from that initiative. Ideas as to how we could do it would
>>>>>>> be welcome.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Our next call is scheduled for Wed 2008.02.13 - 1.5 Hr. starting at:
>>>>>>> 1pm PST / 4pm EST / 21:00 GMT/UTC.
>>>>>>> Please mark your calendars now and refer to details at the wiki
>>>>>>> session page (closer to the time) at:
>>>>>>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_02_13
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Look forward to having you all at the next meeting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards. =ppy
>>>>>>> --
>
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