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Re: [oor-forum] Defining "Ontology Repository" (maybe "OntologyRegistry"

To: OpenOntologyRepository-discussion <oor-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, John Graybeal <graybeal@xxxxxxxxx>
From: Duane Nickull <dnickull@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 10:32:52 -0800
Message-id: <C3CC9A54.C2B3%dnickull@xxxxxxxxx>
Official definitions from other industry sources.  I don't want to be
involved if we are going to redefine these things in a different manner than
the rest of the industry as it will lead to FUD.    (01)

In it's generic, simplistic form:    (02)

Registry - metadata about artifacts
Repository - where artifacts are stored    (03)

Registry:    (04)

A formal system for the documentation of the element sets, descriptions,
semantics, and syntax of one or more metadata schemes. Source: NISO,
Understanding metadata
www.infodiv.unimelb.edu.au/metadata/glossary.html    (05)

Metadata registry, a location in an organization where metadata definitions
are stored and maintained
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Registry    (06)

Repository:    (07)

A repository is a central place where data is stored and maintained. A
repository can be 
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repository    (08)

A facility for storing descriptions and behaviors of objects in an
enterprise, including requirements, policies, processes, data, software
libraries, projects, platforms and personnel, with the potential of
supporting both software development and operations management. ...
orafaq.com/glossary/faqglosr.htm    (09)

Duane    (010)


On 2/4/08 9:52 AM, "Peter Yim" <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:    (011)

> During the discussion, the inclination (I thought) was to consign
> "metadata" to the "registry" (rather than the "repository".) But it
> was also brought up, and rightfully so, that a "repository", if it is
> any good, would also include a "registry" or have one  associated with
> it.
> 
> Regards.  =ppy
> --
> 
> 
> On Feb 4, 2008 9:44 AM, John Graybeal <graybeal@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> I thought I also heard on a telecon that artifacts could include the metadata
>> that goes along with managing the ontology, e.g., who made what changes, or
>> comments that are 'externally attached' to a particular term or version.
>> Yes? No? Maybe?
>> 
>> john
> 
> 
>> At 9:33 AM -0800 2/4/08, Peter Yim wrote:
>>>> [DN]  can someone clarify what is meant by 'related
>>>> information artefacts'? Do you mean artefacts related to particular
>>>> ontologies, or do you mean ontologies 'and similar' (i.e., do you mean to
>>>> include other kinds of knowledge organisation systems (KOS) like
>>>> classification schemes and taxonomies?)
>>> 
>>> [ppy]  what I (and probably a few others in the Jan-23 discussion) had
>>> in mind when discussing the original proposals,) "artefacts related to
>>> particular ontologies" are those that were addressed during Ontology
>>> Summit 2007 [1] - which revolved around the theme of: "Ontology,
>>> Taxonomy, Folksonomy: Understanding the Distinctions."  This would
>>> include "artifacts" that various communities may "call an ontology"
>>> and those they are spread out  over the "ontology spectrum" (which
>>> includes data models, database and XML schemas, taxonomies, thesaurus,
>>> conceptual models, logical theories, etc.)
>>> 
>>> [1] Please refer to the documented input and proceedings from and the
>>> Ontology Summit 2007 (2007.01.18~2007.04.24 plus some follow-up
>>> activities) at:
>>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007
>>> 
>>> [2]  a quick overview of what had transpired can be gleaned from:
>>> 
>>> (2.1) The OntologySummit2007 Communique -
>>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007_Communique
>>> and
>>> (2.2) A subsequent presentation entitled: "Lessons Learned from
>>> Virtual Organizing for the Ontology Summit 2007" -
>>> http://colab.cim3.net/file/work/Expedition_Workshop/2007-07-17_TowardsStable
>>> MeaningAndRecordsPreservation/Ontolog-Panel--OntologySummit2007-lessons-lear
>>> ned_20070717.ppt
>>> 
>>> Thanks & regards.  =ppy
>>> --
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 4, 2008 9:08 AM, Dennis Nicholson <d.m.nicholson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> I'm inclined to agree with the addition of 'or'. It is entirely possible
>>>> that a repository will not manage an ontology but only store it and allow
>>>> it
>>>> to be retrieved. Also, can someone clarify what is meant by 'related
>>>> information artefacts'? Do you mean artefacts related to particular
>>>> ontologies, or do you mean ontologies 'and similar' (i.e., do you mean to
>>>> include other kinds of knowledge organisation systems (KOS) like
>>>> classification schemes and taxonomies?)
>>>> 
>>>> Dennis
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: oor-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:oor-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>>>> dbedford@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Sent: 04 February 2008 16:34
>>>> To: OpenOntologyRepository-discussion
>>>> Subject: Re: [oor-forum] Defining "Ontology Repository" (maybe
>>>> "OntologyRegistry" too) for the OOR Initiative
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> All,
>>>> 
>>>> I apologize for raising the concern - given what Dennis has described,
>>>> would
>>>> it be possible to modify the description to read...
>>>> 
>>>> "An ontology repository is a facility where ontologies and related
>>>> information artifacts can be stored, retrieved and/or managed."
>>>> 
>>>> The insertion of the word "or" would make the definition acceptable to me.
>>>> Without it, perhaps it will exclude some legitimate repository
>>>> architectures.  I believe that 'retrieved' could be read to mean
>>>> referenced.
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Denise
>>> 
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>> 
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