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From: Jack Ring <jring7@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 22:06:19 -0700
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Gentlemen,
I suggest that we bring into focus a couple of application domains that are 
already clearly illustrating the vagaries of attempting systems sans 
ontologies. One is the FBI Case Management System which first contractor was 
cancelled after several years and now the second contractor is in trouble.  The 
second is the FAA NextGen system which is just entering the  engineering of 
systems phase. I have not been involved in either so cannot give you 
first-person data but I have been around long enough to smell big problems 
'from way over here.' I have mentioned this to others who readily agree with 
me, however, being government contractors they do not want to rock the boat.      (01)

On Jan 20, 2012, at 5:49 PM, Steve Ray (CMU) wrote:    (02)

> Dear Colleagues,
>       On behalf of the "Large-scale Domain Applications" track (Track 4)
> of the Ontology Summit we would like to share with you what this track is
> trying to bring out. As you may be aware, some of the other tracks and
> cross-track conversations will be talking about the practice of systems
> engineering, or quality issues, or about engineered systems in general. This
> track is designed to bring to the table some real-world examples from the
> perspective of any of a number of application domains. So, for example, one
> conversation might be about how large scale systems in the biomedical domain
> have used ontologies to meet their requirements. Or, we might be talking
> about how the smart grid "system" could be using ontology for better
> interoperability among utilities. Or, how U.S. government systems are using
> ontology to connect the dots among agencies. But most importantly, we want
> to hear about actual applications that will keep us honest - what worked,
> what didn't work, where did it make sense to use ontologies and where was it
> a mistake?
> 
>       This first posting is to put the following questions on the table:
> 
> 1. Do you know of a good example of a large-scale domain application where
> someone could lead us through the ups and down of using ontological methods
> in its design or implementation?
> 2. Can you help us find the best speaker to participate in one of our two
> panel sessions (February 16th and March 8th)?
> 
> So far, we have thoughts in the three domains mentioned above:
> 
> Biomedical applications
> Smart grid architecture
> Government systems
> 
> Please add to this list, and share your knowledge of systems and opinions
> about what has worked.
> 
> 
> - Steve Ray, Trish Whetzel        
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Steven R. Ray, Ph.D.
> Distinguished Research Fellow
> Carnegie Mellon University
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