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From: "Eirich, Peter" <Peter.Eirich@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 07:02:43 -0500
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I would concur with Matthew's answer.    (01)

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Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] [ontology-summit-org] Track Content pages    (03)

Dear John,    (04)

> I realize that a large number of messages have gone back and forth 
> about the word 'engineered'.  But would anybody who reads the 
> announcement of the ontology summit need to know any of that?
> 
> > Track 2 will focus on the ontology of large-scale engineered systems.
> 
> Wouldn't it be simpler just to drop the word 'engineered'?    (05)

Not really my choice of words. The titles were settled before I offered to be a 
champion. However, there is a distinction between systems in general and 
engineered systems. Engineered systems are those that are the result of some 
systems engineering process, whereas there are certainly systems that arise 
naturally, and were not engineered for a purpose - at least not by humans.    (06)

If there was a strong interest expressed in systems that are wider than 
engineered systems, I would be happy to broaden the track to accommodate them. 
On the other hand, engineered systems are generally within my competence, 
whereas a broader view of systems would not be, and I'd rather not be drawing 
conclusions about systems in general when they really only applied to 
engineered systems.    (07)

So I suggest we await an interest and expertise in non-engineered systems 
before making changes.    (08)

Regards    (09)

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> -----Original Message-----
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> org-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John F. Sowa
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> Subject: Re: [ontology-summit-org] Track Content pages
> 
> Dear Matthew,
> 
> I realize that a large number of messages have gone back and forth 
> about the word 'engineered'.  But would anybody who reads the 
> announcement of the ontology summit need to know any of that?
> 
> > Track 2 will focus on the ontology of large-scale engineered systems.
> 
> Wouldn't it be simpler just to drop the word 'engineered'?
> 
> Is anything gained by that word, other than a puzzled look on 
> somebody's face who wonders what meaning, if any, that word might 
> contribute?
> 
> John
> 
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