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From: Marc Wine <winemash@xxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 21:04:59 -0500
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Gentlemen,    (01)

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On Dec 9, 2010, at 8:29 PM, Dean Allemang <dallemang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  
wrote:    (03)

>  On 12/9/2010 6:32 PM, Ian Horrocks wrote:
>> On 9 Dec 2010, at 07:21, Bradley Shoebottom wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I attended a recent TopQuadrant training session in which it was  
>>> expressed that OWL-2 was overly complex and that OWL-RL could do  
>>> everything that OWL 2 could with less restrictions.
>> I find this statement to be strange tending to disingenuous.
>
>
> I suppose as written, the statement tends to disingenuous, but I'd  
> like
> to cut Bradley some slack - it is a one-sentence summary of what was
> probably a two-hour long discussion (I don't think I was the TQ
> instructor for Bradley's class, but I have a pretty good idea of the
> curriculum of all our courses; OWL usually gets at least 2 hours, even
> in an expurgated course).
>
> I find that in the classes I do teach, the students are very concerned
> about complexity in the computational sense, so in fact, Ian's comment
> about the one sense in which Bradley's statement is accurate, is  
> indeed
> the one they are interested in.
>
> The only part of this statement that I find strange it is the  
> statement
> that OWL-RL can do everything that OWL 2 (DL) can do. To adjust this
> statement, I would say that for many applications, OWL RL allows one  
> to
> represent everything one needs, among things that can be represented  
> in
> OWL at all (see John Sowa's comment elsewhere in this thread).  That
> seems quite reasonable, especially in light of how many very useful
> models can be expressed with just RDFS+inverse+transitive.  Again, I
> would cut Bradley some slack; this is almost a throw-away one-liner   
> - I
> don't expect him to be this precise.
>
>
> Dean
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