Re: [ontology-summit] Communique Summary - Revisions

[Nicola Guarino <guarino@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi, I post a message I sent today to the wrong list (ontology summit organization)  - Nicola

Folks,

unfortunately I am not able to attend the meeting remotely, please report to the audience my warmest wishes for a lively and fruitful event, also on behalf of the IAOA executive council.

I would like to point to a general issue emerged while discussing with Laure Vieu about the communique draft. Throughout the text, we use the term "ontology" to denote a new, emerging discipline. Clearly, ontology as such is not new. I suggest to use the term "applied ontology" instead of "ontology", just to point out that what creates this new research area is exactly the choice to use some categories and methodologies borrowed from philosophy for the purposes of scientific and technological research. This results in the unique interdisciplinary character of applied ontology, much higher than philosophical ontology.

If (more or less) people agree on this, I will be happy to interact with the final editors in order to word out the above points properly.

Cheers everybody,

Nicola

On 15 Mar 2010, at 22:15, ravi sharma wrote:

Fabian

FYI

I posted the following to the Chat board... only some of the ideas are reproduced here hoping will find place in Communique:

 

RaviSharma: Great Observation from Dagobert Soergel in terms of at least a course in ontology like bio informatics in medical education, thus requiring projections of Teachers required by types of expertise required to cater to the students numbers projeted.

Fabian:Enterprise Architecture is an area I have been practising 10 years, I would be happy to contribute some text for Fabian and Denise.

Fabian: request - Barry' Comments to be captured for Communique I am requesting Fabian to kindly note comparison bet math and engg and also physics, etc.

 

RaviSharma: Mike Grunninger: Please add - Uncertainties and Strengths and Types of Relationships (predicates - by relevence by domain for exapmle) are imporatent to include in Communique as knowledge gaps or research areas for future ontologists related training.

RaviSharma: Jim: inductive deductive and semantic language translations?
RaviSharma: If we agree also suggested by Terry Longstreth present here Let us just add Research and graduate level Learning areas in communique.

RaviSharma: Mike Grunninger for Communique: It is also important to distinguish between two streams, ontology-science as suggested by Prof Barry, and Also the other important track of Practical applications of ontologies  -ontology-engineering-Computational ontologies and related learning of available tools, standards and related domains.

Mike Grunninger: I see a sense to iclude semantic web as technology of interest, 

RDF OWL reasoning, DL, etc.

RaviSharma: Earth, atmosphere, ocean and Natural resources, Energy, Environment, smart grid. for peter

 

DeborahMacPherson: A couple changes for  Any domain could be an application domain for ontologists. For example, ontologies are used in the following areas:    (2AV5)

Natural sciences (biology and and biomedical informatics, physics, astronomy, geology)    (2AV6)
Business (enterprise modeling, enterprise integration, manufacturing systems) and E-Commerce    (2AV7)
Government (public administration, health system, military, intelligence community, security)    (2AV
Education    (2AV9)
Cultural resources (museums, digital libraries)    (2AV10)

DeborahMacPherson: OOPS the changes are:A couple changes for  Any domain could be an application domain for ontologists. For example, ontologies are used in the following areas:    (2AV5)

Natural sciences (biology and and biomedical informatics, physics, astronomy, geology)    (2AV6)
Business (enterprise modeling, enterprise integration, manufacturing systems) and E-Commerce    (2AV7)
Government (public administration, health system, military, intelligence community, security)    (2AV
Education    (2AV9)
Cultural resources (museums, digital libraries)    (2AV10) (New) Built Environment (Emergency Management, Sustainable Design, Smart Grid) also change are used "in the following areas" to "in, across and between the following areas"

Simon Spero: [How long is the communique supposed to end up?  How is the target audience?  Is it it industry, academia (as  industry), academia (as researchers?)

RaviSharma: Deborah: Great additions and edits please continue to send to Fabian.

DeborahMacPherson: Thanks - sent to list - sorry will have to miss F2F tomorrow but will dial in tomorrow

RaviSharma: Fabian: Please Include a sentence such as following.....While ontology related learning set is mutifaceted it is also recognized that there are atleast two types of tracks for example formal or ontology science and another related to Ontology engineering, ontology applications, Computational Ontology, related to certifications, degrees, industry or standards oriented areas.

Fabian - thanks for editing and including these concepts and sentences.

Regards.

Ravi

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Fabian Neuhaus <fneuhaus@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

Denise,
Point taken. I changed the draft, it now says "formal". I changed other
parts of the document accordingly.
Best
Fabian

BEDFORD, DENISE A.D. wrote:
> Todd,
>
> I have just one small suggestion to make.  In Item 2 below, my suggestion is to change the wording from
>
> "There are very few training opportunities for ontologists." to "There are very few formal educational opportunities for ontologists."
>
> This may seem like a small point, but my sense is that we are trying to establish a more formal, credentialed environment for learning these skills.  The term "training" typically conveys something  little different - anyone can teach, don't need oversight, organizations can offer independently and you may earn a 'certificate' that has little value in the field.  I may be overly sensitive to this point so please feel free to disregard my suggestion.
>
> Best regards,
> Denise
>
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Todd J Schneider [todd.schneider@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 12:31 PM
> To: Ontology Summit 2010 discussion
> Cc: Fabian Neuhaus
> Subject: [ontology-summit]  Communique Summary - Revisions
>
> Here's my revision of the summit communique.
>
> Summary    (2ASQ)
> Increasingly, major national, international, and commercial projects,
> systems, and products employing semantic technologies are being undertaken
> by governments, scientific, and industrial organizations. A key aspect of
> semantic technologies are ontologies, without which these efforts will
> fail. This creates a growing need for ontology expertise and thus for new
> methods and institutions for the training of ontologists. The goal of the
> 2010 Ontology Summit was to develop a strategy for the education of
> ontologists, both in the academic and commercial worlds. To achieve this
> goal we studied (i) how ontologists are currently trained, (ii) the
> requirements by organizations that hire ontologists, and (iii)
> developments that might impact the training of ontologists in the future.
>   (2B98)
> The main findings and results of the Ontology Summit are:    (2B99)
> 1.      There is already a large demand for ontologists, and the demand is
> expected to increase as semantic technologies become more successful.
> (2B9A)
> 2.      There are very few training opportunities for ontologists.
> (2B9I)
> 3.      Organizations that want to hire ontologists often have
> difficulties in identifying qualified candidates since there is no
> professional organization that certifies ontologists
> 4.      Very few educational institutions that offer training for
> ontologists.    (2B9B)
> 5.      A list of recommended knowledge and skills that should be taught
> to future ontologists was developed. These recommendations are intended as
> guidelines for institutions that might consider establishing a program for
> training ontologists.    (2B9H)
> As next steps, the Ontolog community recommends a more detailed
> description of the requisite knowledge and skills. Further, we recommend
> the development of a repository that allows educators to exchange training
> material for ontologists. Most importantly, we encourage educational
> institutions to establish programs that address the growing need for
> ontologists.    (2B95)
>
> Todd
>
>
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