Hi Gunther, (01)
Thank you for the response. (02)
> [GS] I believe you have access to the UCUM material (03)
[ppy] correct. (04)
> [GS] and that nothing is required from me to upload. (05)
[ppy] that is actually something I would like to find out too. The
OOR sandbox ( http://oor-01.cim3.net/ ) is based on the NCBO BioPortal
technology implementation ... therefore someone like yourself, Chris
Chute (Mayo Clinic) or Mark Musen (Stanford) may be able to tell us if
there is some form of UCUM that would sit well alongside other
ontologies, say, in the NCBO-OOR (OpenOntologyRepository) installation
that is being run now. (06)
> [GS] I also believe that perhaps I might not even
> be on that call because the first step was for you
> to do some kind of gap analysis and say what you
> want to do different from UCUM. If that is not
> correct, please let me know and I try to join.
> It's going to be relatively difficult. (07)
[ppy] maybe there are good reasons why we need your presence. (08)
The exercise at hand is not about defining another UoM standard, but
rather, about representing such standard(s) as a set of ontologies so
that UoM standard(s) can be computable by machines, besides simply
being expressed in natural language(s); to be interpreted by humans. (09)
Your presence (or that of someone intimately familiar with UCUM) will
be extremely useful. You can tell us whether the UCUM standards is the
right candidate for "conversion" into ontologies. You could provide
guidance as to what other standards are complementary, which ones are
duplicative, etc. ... when the group starts reviewing what standards
or ontologies are already on the landscape, and which ones are the
best candidates that the community to jointly put effort into. (010)
I do hope you can join us *and* be on the panel. (If we do decide on
having the session) This will be a 2 to 2.5 hour virtual session (an
augmented conference call) on Thu 2009.06.11 starting at 10:30am PDT /
1:30pm EDT / 7:30pm CEST / 17:30 UTC. (011)
Thanks in advance. =ppy (012)
P.S. by the way, I took the liberty to omit your "CONFIDENTIALITY
NOTICE" footnote, as that is inconsistent with the open archived
mailing list settings that this community is working under. ... before
doing so, I did make an attempt to satisfy myself that your message
content is not confidential in nature. I hope you are fine with that.
Maybe you can provide a disclaimer (like what Howard did), or even
provide us with a working email address that is free of such a
footnote in the future.
-- (013)
2009/5/28 Gunther Schadow <gschadow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> Hi Peter,
>
> I believe you have access to the UCUM material and
> that nothing is required from me to upload. I also
> believe that perhaps I might not even be on that
> call because the first step was for you to do some
> kind of gap analysis and say what you want to do
> different from UCUM. If that is not correct, please
> let me know and I try to join. It's going to be
> relatively difficult.
>
> regards,
> -Gunther
>
> --
> Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Associate Professor Indiana University School of Informatics
> Regenstrief Institute, Inc. Indiana University School of Medicine
> tel:1(317)423-5521 http://aurora.regenstrief.org (014)
> Peter Yim wrote:
>> Folks,
>>
>> We are now two weeks from Thu 2009.06.11 ... and time to take inventory
>again.
>>
>> I am writing to ping everyone, one more time, to find out:
>>
>> 1. who is interesting to participate in getting the said Units of
>> Measure ontology effort going.
>> 2. who is willing to provide some level of leadership to get this
>> effort off the ground.
>> 3. who would be joining us if we do run a virtual panel session on
>> this on Thu 2009.06.11
>> 4. if you are joining, and would like to be a panelist, please provide
>> a title and an abstract of what you might share with in in a 10~15
>> minute brief.
>> 5. besides PatCassidy, who else has (access to) a UoM related
>> ontology, that he/she can upload to the OOR sandbox and some other
>> publicly accessible ontology repository? (if the latter, please advise
>> where the repository is.)
>>
>> Let's wait till end-of-day Tuesday June-2 for everyone's response.
>> Depending on the responses, we'll decide how to move forward with
>> this.
>> Do respond NOW (to this thread), please, if you can!
>>
>>
>> Thanks & regards. =ppy
>> -- (015)
>> 2009/5/19 Olken, Frank <folken@xxxxxxx>:
>>> Peter,
>>>
>>> I am still interested, but still busy running NSF review panels.
>>> June 10-11, 2009 is (I hope) my last panel of the fiscal year.
>>>
>>> Frank Olken
>>>
>>> National Science Foundation
>>> Computer and Information Science and Engineering Directorate
>>> Intelligent Information Systems Division
>>> Information Integration and Informatics Program
>>> Suite 1125
>>> 4201 Wilson Blvd.
>>> Arlington, VA 22230
>>>
>>> Tel: 703-292-8930 (main)
>>> Tel: 703-292-7350 (direct)
>>> Email: folken@xxxxxxx
>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/frankolken (016)
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: peter.yim@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:peter.yim@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter
>Yim
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 3:23 PM
>>> To: Ontology Summit 2009; Forest Lin; Patrick Cassidy; Duane Nickull;
>Conrad Bock; Rob Raskin; Olken, Frank; Gunther Schadow; Chute, Christopher G.,
>M.D., Dr. P.H.; David Price; Peter Benson; Elisa Kendall; Edward Barkmeyer
>>> Cc: Steve Ray; Peter Yim
>>> Subject: Re: Re: [ontology-summit] Progressing a Units Ontology - virtual
>session
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> Since only 3 people indicated they could be available to do the
>>> session this Thursday (May-21 ... but, luckily, they are also
>>> available for Jun-11), I'll assume that's not quite making critical
>>> mass. Let's decide to drop this Thursday, and pursue the Thursday
>>> Jun-11 date for the session instead. This would give everyone a bit
>>> more time to respond and to get prepared. Unless we hear major
>>> objections to this date, let's lock that date in, and move on to
>>> getting the right people and content prepared.
>>>
>>> Once again, would you be able to join us for the session on
>>> 11-Jun-2009 - 2 Hrs starting Thu 2009.06.11 - 10:30am PDT / 1:30pm EDT
>>> / 7:30pm CEST / 6:30pm BST / 17:30 UTC
>>>
>>> I've added a couple more people (ElisaKendall and EdBarkmeyer) to the
>>> initial list. Will everyone please also advise who else should be
>>> involved, please indicate. So, unless you've already indicated your
>>> availability, please advise if you can join us on Jun-11 [attn: PatC,
>>> Duane, Conrad, Rob, Frank, Gunther, Forest, ChrisC, David, PeterB,
>>> Elisa, EdB] ... we need your presence and support if we were to embark
>>> on an ontology as important as this!
>>>
>>> Thanks & regards. =ppy
>>> -- (017)
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