Regarding "truth", the fluidity & susceptibility to perspectival
relativity of both the concept and its realization has been recognized
since Heraclitus at least (to ignore many more recent reputable
stakes-in-the-ground). I suspect that our several base attitudes to
"truth" depend a lot on our several preferences regarding logic - & that
these preferences are shaped profoundly by implementation experience of
various kinds whether in research, engineering or business. (01)
My own logic-style preference lies in the direction of labelled
deduction and situation semantics (with game semantics providing
dynamics), with a strong attraction being their respective specific
abilities to unify diverse approaches that arise in particular
knowledge-domains for good reasons. (02)
I gather that other participants in this discussion have strong
first-order/computable/model-based preferences (for similar personal
reasons of experience/expedience?). (03)
It might be useful to separate style-preference factors from utility
factors in debating putative features of the OOR. (04)
Ann W. (05)
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[mailto:ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter
Benson
Sent: 27 March 2008 12:46
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Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] [Quality] What means (07)
John,
While truth is a challenging concept that has and will continue to be
debated by philosophers probably forever, we can and do as you say make
approximations and many would dispute even this. The point I was trying
to make is that we do not need to use the concept of truth to function.
Courts function of the principle of "reasonable doubt" and lasers are
succesfully used in construction.
I enjoy the challenge of the purity of the agrument but I am constantly
trying to find its application in the real world. Unfortunantly it is
rarely a smouth process and most often a period of unyielding
frustration occasionally broken by glimses of enlightenment.
Peter (08)
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[mailto:ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John F.
Sowa
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 9:59 PM
To: Ontology Summit 2008
Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] [Quality] What means (09)
Peter, (010)
We make approximations to what we believe is true for many different
purposes, but that doesn't affect the point that the truth itself
(whether we know it or not) doesn't change. (011)
> Does light travel in a straight line, "in truth" no, but for > all
purposes here on earth to say it does would be a true > statement. (012)
Even that has to be qualified. When light moves from air to water, it
bends. As a result, a straight stick placed in looks broken. And the
naked eye can detect so-called "heat waves"
caused by the uneven bending of light when passing through air at
different temperatures. (013)
John (014)
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