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Re: [ontolog-forum] some of the challenge(s) ontologists face

To: "Nadin, Mihai" <nadin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "[ontolog-forum]" <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: Pat Hayes <phayes@xxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 20:36:31 -0500
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On Jul 16, 2015, at 1:07 PM, Nadin, Mihai <nadin@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:    (01)

> Dear Rich Cooper:
> You say:
> It isn't necessarily true that a machine is a closed system.  The ultimate 
>conversing machine, for example, can acquire and store new experiences with 
>new syntax, concepts, vocabularies, or just verbs, nouns, adjectives and the 
> Please give my text on predictive computation (for which I provided a link-- 
>http://www.nadin.ws/archives/2466) a bit of your attention. Turing provided 
>early on details on what machines are.    (02)

I presume you are referring to Turing machines. But actual computers attached 
to the internet are not Turing machines. For example, they are able to respond 
in real time to a telephone connect tone, which is beyond the capacity of a 
Turing machine.     (03)

> The “ultimate conversing” machine you describe is a goal towards which many 
>work. However, the capabilities you associate with it do not make it an open 
>system (in the sense in which system theory defines open systems).    (04)

Can you please provide a reference for this sense of 'open system'?     (05)

Pat Hayes    (06)

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