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From: David Whitten <whitten@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 17:51:43 -0400
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Phil,
rather than just referring folks to the thesis a whole, you could post
a snippet from your thesis, or even explain how the snippet is
relevant to the question at hand.    (01)

David    (02)

On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Philip Jackson
<philipcjacksonjr@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hello Michael,
>
> Michael Brunnbauer wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 03:05:02PM -0400, Philip Jackson wrote:
>> > JS
>> > > but any AI system that could do even a subset of the tasks that
>> > > Langley lists for the attorney or teacher would be extremely
>> > > valuable.
>> PH
>> > Valuable for who, exactly? Seems to me all it would do is put
>> > human attorneys and teachers out of a job. Or, more likely,
>> > mean that some human teachers and attorneys (those who have
>> > the funds to buy or rent such a system) have a devastating
>> > advantage over other human rivals.
> PJ
>> >This is the general problem of technological unemployment resulting
>> > from automation and AI, which has been receiving increased attention
>> > over the past several years.
>
> MB
>> Or the problem that statements from people working in that field sometimes
>> suggest to others that they care more about making some dream come true
>> than
>> about desirability or consequences.
>
> I've added initials above to show who gave each comment in the thread.
>
> I care about the desirability of consequences for achieving human-level AI,
> which is why section 7.9 discusses the problem of technological
> unemployment.
>
> I think  probably everyone else who posted or was quoted in this thread,
> also hopes for desirable consequences of work in the field.
>
>> Section 2.1 of my thesis discusses 'higher-level mentalities' needed to
>> support human-level intelligence in general.
>
> MB
>>  If you carry on like this we'll have to rename this mailing list to
>> "Philip Jackson's doctoral thesis" ;-)
>
> It seems a lot of topics are discussed, and questions asked, for which it
> seems the thesis gives relevant discussions. Whenever that happens, the
> choice is whether to be silent, or to chip in my two cents...
>
> Maybe I should use an acronym, e.g. "RTPCJT", for "Read the PCJ Thesis", and
> just post something like:
>
> RTPCJT section 7.9:
> http://www.philjackson.prohosting.com/PCJacksonPhDThesisInformation.html
>
> Cheers,
>
> Phil
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