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From: "Rich Cooper" <rich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 09:25:26 -0700
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+1

 

Sincerely,

Rich Cooper

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From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Adrian Walker
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 9:12 AM
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Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Advances in Cognitive Systems

 

Hi John & All,

Some time ago, John McCarthy wrote words to the effect "what's needed is to think about how to do advanced AI, rather than building systems based on our current approaches"

Agree?


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On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 11:29 AM, John F Sowa <sowa@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Volume 3, September 2013 to August 2014, of the Journal
_Advances in Cognitive Systems_ is available for free download:

    http://www.cogsys.org/journal/volume-3/

The editor, Pat Langley, proposed four research challenges that
are more realistic than the Turing test:

    http://www.cogsys.org/pdf/paper-9-3-37.pdf

Following are the four challenges:

  1. A synthetic entertainer -- a singer-songwriter that people would
     enjoy listening to.

  2. A synthetic attorney that would interview a client, gather
     information, plan a defense, interact with the judge and witnesses,
     and prepare and present a closing argument.

  3. A synthetic politician that would analyze information about
     current issues, write and deliver speeches, answer questions,
     and participate in debates with other candidates.

  4. A synthetic teacher that would compose lectures on a subject,
     present them to students, answer questions during or after the
     lectures, generate exercises and tests, and grade the answers.

When the movie _2001: A Space Odyssey_ came out in 1968, Marvin Minsky,
who had been a technical adviser for it, said that the HAL 9000 was a
"conservative estimate" of the state of the art of AI in 2001.

An AI system with the abilities of HAL could do a respectable job
as an entertainer, attorney, politician, or teacher.  But there is
no research prototype today that comes remotely close.

I'm not sure about the practical value of synthetic politician,
but any AI system that could do even a subset of the tasks that
Langley lists for the attorney or teacher would be extremely
valuable.

Why can't AI do those tasks today?  What kind of R & D would help?

John

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