[WF] (01)
> Nietsche is peachy, but not a witness to reason. (02)
[EB]
(A keeper!) Especially not when his statement is taken out of context
(!). (03)
Len Yabloko wrote:
> Nietzsche once said '... there are no facts, only interpretations'. (04)
[LY] I did not quote directly from Neitzsche. My source was a recent book by
Luc Ferry "History of Thought" ( a present day philosopher, who I believe was
not so long ago French Minister of Education). I found his older book
critiquing the same out of context translation of Nietzsche with reference to
original "Will to Power":
http://books.google.com/books?id=f-E_SpoReqsC&lpg=PT82&ots=-GselwbY9p&dq=Luc%20Ferry%20Nietzsche%20facts%20and%20interpretation&pg=PT82#v=onepage&q&f=false (05)
[EB]
>Now, IMO, this discussion is leaping back and forth among logic,
epistemology, metaphysics and political/social science, which makes it
very difficult to determine any relationship between the statements of
various contributors. (06)
[LY]
I agree entirely with this assessment and with most of arguments that followed
my initial comments about the nature of cooperation and the role of inter-group
communication in evolution. My intention was not to turn this thread into
continuation of another thread totally dedicated to facts and logic. My *only*
point was about the games being a context for communication in nature
(including humans). And that context being more important than signals or
speech acts taken by itself, or in a different context such as logic or history.
This equally applies to quotes from different thinker and statements on this
forum. One should not confuse a word or figure of speech with logical
construct, because context was not properly set up. (07)
I am well aware of a long history behind "Liar's paradox". What I don't
understand is how it can be applied in a context of natural language and games
that lead to its evolution.
It only remains a paradox until you disambiguate a context. In logic begining
with Fregde this paradox has many satisfactory solutions, such as axiomatic
closure and defaults. (08)
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