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Re: [ontolog-forum] Self Interest Ontology

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From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2012 16:28:42 -0400
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On 4/7/12 2:15 PM, Rich Cooper wrote:

Dear David and Kingsley,

 

I agree re the technology of DBMSs at the time of Lotus123’s release.  However, the problem still hasn’t been “seamlessly” solved even today.  Kingsley is right in principle; spreadsheets, documents, all kinds of daily used conceptual tools SHOULD be very simple to post into cells, tables, columns and rows of relations in DBMSs.  The best current approach is to use the BLOB (binary large object) domain in most modern DBMSs, but that is by no means “seamless”. 


This is where I truly believe Linked Data shines (modulo distracting arguments that coalesce HttpRange-14). I've written a few posts [1] in recent times showcasing how Linked Data moves us from Open Database Connectivity (ODBC) to Open Data Connectivity.

 

Such daily tools fit Ridley’s concept of knowledge sharing in principle, but the actuality of today’s DBMSs aren’t easy for nonprogrammers (the majority of users) to integrate their models and conclusions with other individuals. 


In addition to my comments above, the rise of Data Wikis, recently exemplified by Wikidata [2] also provide complimentary alleviation to this eternal data access, integration, management, and sharing problem.


Links:

1. http://goo.gl/1dO33 -- is Open Database Connectivity (ODBC) Dead ?
2. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata -- Wikidata Project.

Kingsley

 

-Rich

 

Sincerely,

Rich Cooper

EnglishLogicKernel.com

Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com

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From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Eddy
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2012 10:40 AM
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Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Self Interest Ontology

 

Kingsley -

 

On Apr 7, 2012, at 12:49 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote:



I couldn't understand why Lotus 123 and other productivity tools  didn't have seamless hooks into back-end relational databases :-)

 

And what sort of hoops/contortions would you have had to jump through to get to a serious production database data from engines such as SYS2000, M204, IMS, IDMS, or Adabas or <gasp> flat files like VSAM?

 

Let us not to forget that RDBMSs were primarily interesting experiments in the 1980s, slowly moving into serious production status in the early 1990s.  

 

___________________

David Eddy

 

 

 



 
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