Goodbye, Christopher. (01)
Pat (02)
On Oct 24, 2011, at 6:05 PM, Christopher Spottiswoode wrote: (03)
> Ah, Pat, (others may see his contribution appended below) I had been
> wondering if you would threaten to slam your habitual supposed ace of
> trumps down on my play of my hand. But I had thought it more probable
> later, if at all, on the assumption that in your old age (You are after
> all only a few years short of my 70 ...) you would have grown more
> broad-minded, curious and patient, and not leap so readily to such
> necessarily poorly-informed judgment on a picture still unfolding...
>
> But I'm ready to play along, even after such blanket comment, as I did
> invite Community steering of my introductory dot-joining tracing-out of
> some of the many aspects of this unusual elephant that is my Challenge
> suggestion. (That invitation was at this point in my first post:
> http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2011-10/msg00088.html#nid011.)
>
> I can usually adapt. (Mens sana in corpore sano, and I do regularly and
> enjoyably keep nimble in the mountains near my home. Ok, that's now
> enough from me of ad hominem points on both of us.)
>
> So, Pat, firstly, thanks for the shove!
>
> Now, to Pat and everybody else:
>
> I offer to jump ahead in my provisional plan, and with my next post
> proceed directly to a technical outline of the suggested Challenge
> target.
>
> The advantage seems clear: you would expect sooner to have something
> between your teeth which you could comfortably relate to your normal way
> of viewing and doing your job. One might also think that this is what
> potential Challenge entrants would expect to see.
>
> The downside, however, is that such an outline would at best require
> much tedious context-adjustment, clarification and justification, and at
> worst risks inappropriate pouring of new wine into old bottles. New
> paradigms tend to be like that, and they tend to transform many jobs.
> The need now is for me to describe and convey the whole picture as best
> I can and with your ongoing constructive input. Then we would be better
> positioned for our joint refinement of the more appropriate definition
> of the target for potential Challenge entrants as well as for the
> downstream management of the Challenge and eventual judging of candidate
> products.
>
> Could I have some votes in this informal ballot on those alternatives,
> please? Online or offline as you choose, and no holds barred.
>
> I summarize the above alternatives:
>
> 1. I stick to my intended course, hopefully with your continual input
> in due course (especially once I've offered more specifics); or
>
> 2. I jump ahead now to a technical view but then continually zigzag
> between it and the more waffly-seeming background that adds the wider
> perspectives that really define and differentiate it.
>
> TIA,
> Christopher
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pat Hayes" <phayes@xxxxxxx>
> To: "Christopher Spottiswoode" <cms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "[ontolog-forum]" <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 8:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Ontology Chemistry - foundation and method
>
>
> Christopher, you have one more chance. If your next email is as
> completely devoid of actual content as this and the two previous ones,
> my mail filters will auto-trash all future emails with your name on them
> anywhere.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Pat Hayes
>
>
> On Oct 24, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Christopher Spottiswoode wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> This is the third post of my opening survey of some aspects of the
>> suggested Ontology Chemistry Grand Challenge as outlined at [0]. The
>> first two posts are archived at [1] and [2]. This is a continuation
>> of
>> the Q&A of [2], which ended with my accepting the fact that Grand
>> Challenges will always appear as impossible leaps, apparently only for
>> foolhardy mental cases. I had promised more reassuring perspectives.
>
> [CS]: Here I've cut the rest of my post that Pat had included.
>
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