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Re: [ontolog-forum] Self Interest Ontology going offline

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From: Ali Hashemi <ali@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 22:12:03 -0400
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Hi Rich,

On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Rich Cooper <rich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

An implication is that self-actualization might also need to be understood in terms of mating and status. They also recognize limits in such generalizations - in that these archetypes are realized in unique ways by individuals and need not always apply to everyone.  This is due to the fact that they are making the claims about evolutionary groups (i.e. human species as a whole) and not about individuals (or particular life histories). The table on page 305 summarizes a lot of the ecological stimuli / cues which affect which aspect of the hierarchy might be dominant, hence mitigating any purely conceptual / ideological / abstract rendering of self-interest.


Any abstraction such as that one is necessarily incomplete, and very likely doesn’t apply in many, many cases.  It may not even apply to the majority of cases.  It would be nice to see some real measured data over a long period of time before generalizing on concepts. 

Did you read the article? 

Pages 303-7 in particular focus on "measured data", in some cases over "long periods of time." Rather, the entire paper is focused on such data, it's what the whole paper is about. If you like, you can follow up with the references to satisfy your curiosity.

I suspect any work this present, self-ontology effort might develop would be an "abstraction [that] is necessarily incomplete, and very likely doesn't apply in many, many cases." 

As to whether their work applies in the majority of cases - I wonder again if you have actually read the paper in question.


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