On Tue, March 15, 2011 10:22, Simon Spero said:
> On Mar 15, 2011 1:26 AM, "doug foxvog" <doug@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: (01)
>> "The War of 1812 lasted from 1812 to 1815."
>> "The duration of the War of 1812 was from 1812 to 1815."
>> "The US & UK fought from 1812 to 1815." (02)
> Minor but possibly relevant issues with the last paraphrase: the major
> actors in the event included Canada. (Implicature). (03)
Of course, Canada was a set of UK colonies at the time. On the US
invasions of Canada, they fought British forces. (04)
> Also, fighting between us and uk forces was discontinuous, and
> (accidentally) continued one day after the end of the War. (05)
Wars and the fighting of wars are discontinuous in space and time.
This is true of many other sorts of events, as well. A good ontology
of events would represent this. (06)
> [ The war was a failed attempt to seize Canada (07)
It included such attempts. It involved other issues on both sides,
but those are not matters of discussion in this forum. (08)
An ontology used for representing the war would need to specify
subevents of the war, charges made by different parties to the war,
and relationships between subevents of the main event and other events
that are not considered to be part of the main event. Representing
contexts would be important, as what are viewed as facts by one party
are viewed as false by another. (09)
> whilst British forces were
> engaged in the Peninsular Campaign to liberate Spain and Portugal, and
> Napoleon was still in the thick black part of the graph.
> The war was pushed on the country by the western-most regions and opposed
> by everyone near a coastline. (010)
Certainly not *everyone*. (011)
> After the first exile, the Royal Navy were free to transport and sustain
> battle hardened Marines and other forces, leading to the unfortunate
> events of Aug 24th. (012)
(inRetaliationFor BuringOfWashington BurningOfYorkCanada) (013)
-- doug foxvog (014)
> This was just what the opponents of the war had expected.]
>
> Simon // Up Grads and at 'em
> (015)
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doug foxvog doug@xxxxxxxxxx http://ProgressiveAustin.org (016)
"I speak as an American to the leaders of my own nation. The great
initiative in this war is ours. The initiative to stop it must be ours."
- Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
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