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Re: [ontolog-forum] HOL decidability [Was: using SKOS forcontrolledvalue

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From: "Rich Cooper" <rich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 21:19:03 -0700
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There is a version of Lisp which incorporates infinite precision arithmetic.
You might find an iterator of the kind you are looking for there.      (01)

But adding one to an integer is iteration (over the integers, not over the
primes) even if it DOESN'T use infinite precision representation, in my
interpretation.  You are welcome to yours, specious or not so.  I never said
that it had to be a recursive function.  I said it had to iterate the
primes.  You can also make it a recursive function in infinite precision
arithmetic if you want to do so.      (02)

-Rich    (03)

Sincerely,
Rich Cooper
EnglishLogicKernel.com
Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com
9 4 9 \ 5 2 5 - 5 7 1 2    (04)

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Schulz
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Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] HOL decidability [Was: using SKOS
forcontrolledvalues for controlledvocabulary]    (05)

On Thursday October 14 2010, John F. Sowa wrote:
> On 10/14/2010 1:15 PM, Rich Cooper wrote:
> > what I meant by the statement "there is no function that can
> > iterate the primes", and perhaps I should have originally said
> > "directly, without iterating other types", which seems to have set
> > off this mess.
>
> The word 'iterate' seems to be the trigger that created the mess.
>
> I would interpret your wish in the following terms:
>
> Find a closed-form expression that defines a function Pr(n), which
> for any positive integer n produces the n-th prime.
>
> In other words, you want a statement of the following form that
> computes the n-th prime:
>
>    Pr(n) = some algebraic expression that uses n, but does not
>            contain any nested or implied loop or recursive function.    (06)

By that definition, adding one to an integer would not qualify as 
iteration, since there is an iterative process of propagating carries 
from one bit to the next of the binary representation used by every 
digital computer in use.    (07)

I still maintain your definition of iteration as distinct from other 
recursive functions is specious.    (08)


> I agree that no such definition exists.
>
> John    (09)


Randall Schulz    (010)

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