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Re: [ontolog-forum] HOL decidability [Was: using SKOS forcontrolledvalue

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From: Pavithra <pavithra_kenjige@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 11:40:28 -0700 (PDT)
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Rich and Chris,  ( You two genius professors .. stop it.. )! 

My suggestion is to select a group of people or expert and defend your thesis Gödel's theorem !  We all like to respect everyone and not be an audience for name calling.

Rich we use the word " Populate " or "generate" prime number  more often then iterate.    But I did understand it the same way as Doug said it.. 

I agree with Dr. Sowa there is  one function call based on one Algebraic function  that populates prime numbers.  But we do effectively use iterative ( as you said)  loops with few lines of code to generate it.   One has to also define the upper and lower bound to  (the numbers between 2 to 1000 etc ) to populate the prime numbers for a given range as part of the code..    Chris and Dough did write pseudo code that would work.. 

Regards,
Pavithra







--- On Thu, 10/14/10, Rich Cooper <rich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Rich Cooper <rich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] HOL decidability [Was: using SKOS forcontrolledvalues for controlledvocabulary]
To: "'[ontolog-forum] '" <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thursday, October 14, 2010, 2:13 PM

Chris you remain much too annoying and rude to waste any further time on.
Discuss it with others on the list who can put up with your ignorant
assertion of the commonplace.  I am out. 

-Rich

Sincerely,
Rich Cooper
EnglishLogicKernel.com
Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com
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[mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Christopher
Menzel
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Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] HOL decidability [Was: using SKOS
forcontrolledvalues for controlledvocabulary]

On Oct 14, 2010, at 12:15 PM, Rich Cooper wrote:
> Hi Doug,

> Thanks for you post, you seem to be honestly trying to understand what I
meant by the statement "there is no function that can iterate the primes",
and perhaps I should have originally said "directly, without iterating other
types", which seems to have set off this mess.  But I expected Menzel to
make an honest answer instead of an ad hominem attack. 

I apologize for the *ad hominem* elements of my response, but I gave a very
detailed, "good-faith" critique of all of your claims about Gödel's theorem
and its proof.  I have to admit to having very little patience for people
who misrepresent Gödel's work -- which you did, several times, particularly
in your claim about Gödel's results all being "based on the primes", a claim
you have yet to acknowledge as bogus.  I would have no problem at all
engaging in a more cool-headed way over the meaning of the term "iterate".
Unfortunately, you still seem to think that the fact that "there is no
iterator of [the primes]", in your sense of "iterator", is somehow connected
to Gödel's theorem.  It simply isn't, and the fact that you don't see it
means that you don't understand the theorem or its proof.

-chris


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