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Re: [ontolog-forum] Geographical ontology?

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From: Alan Ruttenberg <alanruttenberg@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:04:46 -0400
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On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 10:20 PM, BEDFORD, DENISE A.D.
<dbedfor3@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> All,
>
> Though not in a formal ontological format, the Getty Museum's Thesaurus of 
>Geographic Names is the most extensive that I have come across.  It's strength 
>lies in its clean definition of geographic entities, and its extensive 
>representation of those entities.
>
> We fed it into an automated country classification profile, and the 
>performance was outstanding.  This is an example of a KOS which should be 
>transformed/represented as a formal ontology.    (01)

Would be great, except for the IP position, which is unfortunate.
Apparently this has been considered but rejected because it's not
open.    (02)

Regards,
Alan    (03)

>
> Best regards,
> Denise
>
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> Political recognition of countries is a concern as well. Some
> countries are not recognized by our State Dept that are in the standard
>
> K Goodier
>
> On Mar 27, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Mike Bennett <mbennett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> At last year's SemTech there was a presentation from the UN FAO folks
>> who have a country ontology:
>>
>> http://www.fao.org/countryprofiles/geoinfo.asp
>>
>> These are the first people that a country writes to when it changes
>> its
>> name, I'm told. So in terms of provenance, this is the most
>> authoritative. It's not ideal since it does not deal with intra-
>> country
>> concepts. Also it's a bit "design-y" for my tastes. When I asked about
>> this they said they had not envisaged other types of user wanting make
>> reference to this material.
>>
>> If one wants to define a set of reference ontologies to use which
>> are as
>> standard as possible then I'd suggest that this should be used for
>> reasons of provenance. I'm in the process of trying to integrate the
>> EDM
>> Council Semantics Repository upper ontology terms into this, for that
>> reason, and replacing the "holding" terms we currently use, which you
>> are welcome to look at on www.hypercube.co.uk/edmcouncil under "Global
>> Terms/Geographical".
>>
>> The intra-country terms are more problematic, and I'm also looking for
>> what is the "most definitive" ontology for such terms, i.e. with
>> provenance from a standards or governing body. The recognised
>> authority
>> on countries and country components is ISO 3166 at
>> http://www.iso.org/iso/country_codes.htm but unfortunately that simply
>> itemises the various intra-country components without attempting to
>> create common concepts (e.g. a federal province is a common concept,
>> whether a given federation calls it a State, a Province, a Canton or
>> whatever, subject to different legal nuances of course).
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Erick Antezana wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I am looking for an ontology that "captures" geographical concepts
>>> such as continent, country, province/state, city, and so forth, their
>>> "instances" (e.g. Europe, Belgium, East Flanders, Ghent) as well as
>>> the relationships among them (Ghent is_located in Belgium).
>>>
>>> I have found a couple of works (e.g.
>>> http://www.geonames.org/ontology/ontology_v2.0_Lite.rdf). Is there
>>> any
>>> one you could advise to look into?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> Erick
>>>
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