Hello,
I agree and understand that the usage of "Name" is not simple.. We can go on discussing this topic... many people have spent years on this topic.
But however, in the example of using UML to design Kermit the frog, I used it in a simple way . I defined Frog as a Class, and agreed that one can have "Name" as one of the attributes of that class, a variable that can assume the value "Kermit" during instantiation.
There can be many frogs and with other names...
For the sake of that example, I prefer to keep it simple, and let Dr. Sowa continue with his topic..
Also about discussion on "Things" and " Entities" - In the past we have looked for " nouns" and "verbs" . Nouns in the statements can be designed as entities or objects or things.... .
Anyone remembers that?
My apologies for causing so much of confusion..
Pavithra
--- On Mon, 3/29/10, Alex Shkotin <alex.shkotin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Alex Shkotin <alex.shkotin@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Fun with Names, strings, and other identifiers
To: "[ontolog-forum]" <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 11:54 AM
Hi Pat, Name is so subtle that there is a whole book The Philosophy of Name by Alexey Losev. see more at http://www.isfp.co.uk/russian_thinkers/alexey_losev.html
Alex 2010/3/28 Patrick Cassidy <pat@xxxxxxxxx>
On just one point:
> Pavithra wrote
>
> > ...
> > I agree, that in Classes, one has to define the attribute as "Name"
> and specify it as a character string which can have a value "Kermit"!
>
[Doug Foxvog]: > I prefer John Sowa's distinction, in which the name is not
a character
> string, but something that has a character string as a spelling.
>
Yes, names are subtler than they appear at first. The Ontology Works base
ontology had an elaborate system to distinguish 'Identifiers" from the
various strings that represent them. Things one has to distinguish are the
original name in the original language, its written form (if any) in the
original language, its original pronunciation, any alternative script
transliterations, language changes ("Morningstar" for "Morgenstern"), and of
course name changes, aliases, cognomens, nicknames, abbreviations, etc. And
then there are odd adaptations: in Chinese, the word for San Francisco is "
旧金山” (Jiu Jin Shan), which translates as "Old Gold Mountain". And then
there are things used as an effort at unique identifiers, such as Social
Security Number, email address, telephone number, Employee Identification
Number, etc. Lots of fun trying to represent and relate all of them.
And does anyone know how the string "Georgia" came to be applied to the
country "Gruzya" (another transliteration)?
Pat
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