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## Re: [ontolog-forum] Foundation Ontology Primitives

 To: "'[ontolog-forum] '" "Rich Cooper" Sun, 7 Feb 2010 16:14:10 -0800 <20100208001411.91C63138D0E@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 Ferenc and John,   I think of a predicate as a FOL _expression_, with the usual and or not xor coin etc operators, and all the terminal symbols are each filled by either property names or property constant ranges.    A predicate returns True iff the predicate function is satisfied over the property values, False otherwise.     Let me define “product normal form” as the sequence of predicates in Anded (product) form only:   P(x,i) := P(x,0) ^ P(x,1) ^ .. ^ P(x,N)   Some prefer to use the opposite view, the “sum of products” method for representation of predicate functions, but in this case there is no SUM, just one big PRODUCT of PREDICATEs.  So the P(x,i) can be calculated with sums (or)s internally, therefore can compute anything computable.    Given a bunch of Things (a Universe), and their property values, wherever the property values are known at time t for the Things, Each predicate represents a traversal from the root node down to a terminal node.  So each predicate selects at least one subThing (for Or expressions) from among the chaff at that level, perhaps a large number of subThings, but preferable fewer subThings than that node’s parent node.  Except for the root node, which holds the whole universe of Things in its confines.     Given that starting point as the structure (see 7,209,923), any kind of distinction can be made.  So the distinction of what is an object, what is a type, relation, and so forth can be based on the properties first defined by capability of the agent’s sensors.  Anything built on top of that sensor information is, by definition, not primitive, but nonterminal.     At least that is my personal FOL ontology, and I’m sticking with it because I like the long strings of predicates it generates.     HTH, -Rich   Sincerely, Rich Cooper EnglishLogicKernel.com Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of FERENC KOVACS Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 1:39 PM To: ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ontolog-forum] Foundation Ontology Primitives   Rich, John Rich first,   Objects, Properties annd Relations are the *cosmonomy* of the world of concepts. In descrbing them verbally and representing them graphically (2D) you need to apply a *creative force*, the *genezis* process that has a philo- and ontogenetic version. No higher math is needed and representing what you have in a RDB is possible in 2D, a piece of paper. (Description of the old system). My examples are from translating between L1 and L2 So we start of with One, and we can zoom in and out to be focused on the *one* in a text. A lot depends on what you consider as one, it is not one word, no atomic view is correct. On the contrary, you pick the longest string of words that are to be translated as one (phrase, cluster, indentifier of a chunk of reality - named by a heading, title, etc.). You want a complete entity as only complete entites make sense. When you take a look at the next complete entity, a message, you need to have a predicate, a verb which is not complete without specifying grammar person and time.   Now properties may be part (adjective, noun) of a predicate so they need to be paraphrised to be collected in a class of identical grammar forms. So you need to make use of mental operations here as well as with objects (not detailed here)   A property - used to describe *an object is an adjective*. But this may be or may not be a terminal state. You may rewrite it as *has property* (created from adjective above). But more often than not, you come to the above statements from a number of observations that involve messages *object did this*, (*object did that*), etc. You shave pilled my coffe - you are clumsy, etc.   OMHO Without showing these relations you will remanin stuck with atomism.  Ferenc
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