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Re: [ontolog-forum] Theoretical issues and practical applications

To: John Sowa <sowa@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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From: Mills Davis <lmd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 10:56:06 -0500
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Also, LarKC project has recently extended MapReduce to handle RDF and OWL.    (01)

http://blog.larkc.eu/?p=1761    (02)

Mills    (03)


On Jan 15, 2010, at 9:53 AM, John F. Sowa wrote:    (04)

> Len,
> 
> LY> I found this presentation which compares several practical
>> approaches using experimental data. It also provides a (predicted)
>> time line for future progress.
>> 
> 
>http://www.larkc.eu/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/larkc-kickoff-meeting-greaves.pdf
> 
> That is an interesting presentation.  But it never defines the term 
> LarKC or even explains the acronym -- that's because it was presented
> at a meeting where people already knew the term.
> 
> For the record, LarKC is supposed to be a Large Knowledge Collider.
> Following is a FAQ sheet:
> 
>    http://wiki.larkc.eu/LarkcProject/FAQ
> 
> I recommend the following 6-page overview:
> 
>    http://www.larkc.eu/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/larkc-icsc08.pdf
> 
> Following is a 22 megabyte ppt "vision" with lots of gee-whiz graphics,
> which I wouldn't recommend unless you have a high-speed line:
> 
>    http://www.larkc.eu/wp-content/uploads/larkc-in-a-nutshell.ppt
> 
> A short summary of my views on the project:
> 
>  1. I agree with many of the points that Mark Greaves makes in the
>     first presentation above.
> 
>  2. I strongly endorse one of the goals of the LarKC project:
>     "Enriching the current logic-based Semantic Web reasoning
>     methods with methods from information retrieval, machine
>     learning, information theory, databases, and probabilistic
>     reasoning."
> 
>  3. I also endorse their goal of removing "the scalability
>     barriers of currently existing reasoning systems."
> 
>  3. But I have serious doubts about a prediction by Gartner that
>     by 2012, 70% of the web pages will be marked up with RDF.
> 
>  4. And I am highly skeptical about projects that bring together
>     14 different groups, each blessed with half a million euros,
>     with the expectation that they will magically produce a
>     major new breakthrough.
> 
> Although I believe that XML tags (including RDF) are valuable for
> many purposes, I believe that we can extract much more semantic
> information from raw, untagged natural language texts.
> 
> At VivoMind, we have been doing that.  And we have achieved goals
> #2 and #3 above without using tagged texts.  We have processed
> gigabytes and terabytes of NL text with an ordinary 8-CPU server.
> 
> John
> 
> 
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