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From: | Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx> |
Date: | Sat, 19 Dec 2009 11:07:53 +0100 |
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Jim as an external long term observer of RDF and OWL developments, from where I stand it looks to me that people have been kicking around screaming about certain hydiosyncrasies of sw standards representations since they have been released. I am glad that they have finally surfaced and that have been picked up in recent keynote addresses, but there has been a lot of pressure to get people to admit there was something wrong in the first place It is great to hear sincerity in the keynote - but it is not Pat that has 'issued a call' - he merely echoing what the rest of the world has been up in arms about and aventually gave in and admitted it (very kind of ISWC to give him a keynote slot to make what is a grand apology in disguise) While it is true that heterogeneity (I am being polite - call it messy state of affairs) is a consequence of 'organic growth' and multiple strands being furthered more or less simultaneously - see what sticks approach - it is also true that some people who may have contributed to developments differently and avoided or at least reduced the number of 'errors' being made have been shut up and marginalised and eventually even kicked out from work groups . I am fairly convinced that if we do not want the same mistakes repeated in the future, we cannot rely solely on the same people and processes that delivered the situation in the first place, otherwise we are gong to get more of the same thing, maybe worse, as things get more complex, very narrow thinking is gong to serve us less and less The SW needs people who have higher level 'systems thinking' skills not to be bullied out of the sw development community by know-it-all arrongant narrow minded individuals I welcome Corey's and OMG and much needed fresh thinking, and possibly different approaches PDM On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Jim Rhyne <jrr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I think this effort may be premature. At ISWC this year, Pat Hayes issued a -- Paola Di Maio ************************************************** “Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.” Albert Einstein ************************************************** _________________________________________________________________ Message Archives: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/ Config Subscr: http://ontolog.cim3.net/mailman/listinfo/ontolog-forum/ Unsubscribe: mailto:ontolog-forum-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Shared Files: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/ Community Wiki: http://ontolog.cim3.net/wiki/ To join: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nid1J To Post: mailto:ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (01) |
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