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Re: [ontolog-forum] Ontology modules and namespaces

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From: Pavithra <pavithra_kenjige@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 05:55:14 -0700 (PDT)
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Hello Mathew and Chris,
 
I think that was a very interesting discussion!   We do have some examples from traditional modeling world.      ( class room kind of examples..)
 
For example,   A Supervisor is an employee himself,  and he has staff ( group of employees ) working for him!  Which creates a  one to many relationship !
 
A meetup of Meetups has similar modeling notations..
 
About your previous slides..  and the exmaples of Table.
 
At a conceptual level ( Ontology)  I would just have a  superclass, a class of "Furniture"
with subclass as  Tables, Chairs, upholstry  and the rest in the list..  and relationships..
 
As one can see, Class "Furniture" can be generic and standardazised with a set of generic subclasses and generic relationhips..    if one does not include the exceptions, at this level, I would find that acceptable. it can be done at a detail level.. as long as superclass covers all..    However, if one finds  the exceptions or the special types ear;y, then can include as notes with explanation, it would help at a detail level.
 
 
At a detail design  level - which is  logical and physical, I would include further details and exceptional or special types etc..    But at a detail level of design, if this step is overlooked, it causes either design flaws or  difficult coding to cover it up.   ( its just bad design..)
 
Note: I am sending this a comments only.
 
Regargds,
Pavithra
 
 


--- On Wed, 10/28/09, Matthew West <dr.matthew.west@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Matthew West <dr.matthew.west@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Ontology modules and namespaces
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Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 4:27 AM

Dear Chris,

Thanks for confirming my comments. Nice to know I've learnt something
along the way.

I was intrigued by this:

> That they have powertypes in
> particular is suggestive of full higher-order logic, but again it's
> just a label without a semantics, so there is no way to know.

I have an interest in powertypes too, so could you tell me how
powertypes can make an ontology higher order, and whether it is possible
(and or desirable) to avoid this.

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