Re: [ontolog-forum] web-syllogism-and-worldview

[FERENC KOVACS <f.kovacs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Ron,

Whether you like it or not, NL is based on recursion and context sensitivity. Not only that, thinking is esetablished before learning a NL. All animals thinki one way or another. Natural langauges should be semantically analyses which is not syntax parsing. You have snatched the term from the lingusits, you have robbed library scientists of theri foremer fields called iundexing and building thesauri and all other scientists preparing nomenclatures. MT people robbed translators from their core job - aliognment of a pair of statements verfified against realiyt, not just the dicitonaries - that is rubbuish, that is what peopőle whoö do notm undrstand a language in all directiosns (up and dond and acfross your ontologies) and as a rsult notw thy sepnd 90 pewrcent of theri time by coping with variousa software to translate fro instance pick up basketball into another languiage with terms thatz canniot be tr5anslated without experience of basketball in both countries - of ths same sort, etc.

Have fun

Frank  

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From: Adrian Walker <adriandwalker@xxxxxxxxx>
To: [ontolog-forum] <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Len Yabloko <lenya@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, 15 April, 2009 8:15:13 PM
Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] web-syllogism-and-worldview

Hi Len --

The problem with the "syllogisms will never work" argument is that, if you allow them to be recursive, they have Turing machine power.  That means that they can compute anything that can be computed.

At a more specific level, you can do useful real world computations with syllogisms.  Please see:

 www.reengineeringllc.com/A_Wiki_for_Business_Rules_in_Open_Vocabulary_Executable_English.pdf

 www.reengineeringllc.com/EnergyIndependence1Video.htm  (Flash video with audio)

                          Cheers,   -- Adrian

Internet Business Logic
A Wiki and SOA Endpoint for Executable Open Vocabulary English over SQL and RDF
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Adrian Walker
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On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Len Yabloko <lenya@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I came across this article while using Twine. This sounds a lot like some of the discussions on this forum. Although I don't have a particular position on the issue, I am very interested in comments.

http://www.twine.com/item/11nf8n6bg-csn/shirky-the-semantic-web-syllogism-and-worldview

BTW, Twine seems to be a good format for forums like this one - better than Wiki (IMH0)



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