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From: Pat Hayes <phayes@xxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 02:20:35 -0600
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On Feb 11, 2009, at 2:16 AM, Matthew West wrote:    (01)

> Dear John,
>
>> Chris,
>>
>> I agree that Quine admitted sets into his ontology.
>>
>> CM> If, however, you mean someone who  rejects the existence
>>> of all abstract entities across the board, then Quine was
>>> no nominalist, as he argued that quantification over
>>> mathematical objects (specifically, sets) is indispensable
>>> to science.
>>
>> But Alonzo Church, who allowed much richer abstract objects
>> into his ontology, delivered a wonderful talk at Harvard with
>> the explicit intention of annoying Quine and Nelson Goodman:
>>
>>    http://www.jfsowa.com/ontology/church.htm
>>    The ontological status of women and abstract entities
>
> [MW] I think there are two different questions here:
>
> 1. Are there certain things like e.g. numbers and possible worlds?
>
> 2. Are they abstract or concrete?
>
> Even the first may be controversial, but even if you agree that  
> these things
> exist, whether they are considered abstract or not is a different  
> question
> (and arguably more controversial).    (02)

Whether they exist or not, I think  you have to say that numbers are  
not concrete. You can't weigh seven.    (03)

Pat    (04)


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