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From: "Len Yabloko" <lenya@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:09:52 +0000
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Ravi,     (01)

>Interesting thoughts and references! Thanks.
>How would we explain the following?
>1. Cross cultural learning - does that become second nature of being?    (02)

"second nature" literary means epi-phenomena (nature being a primary 
phenomena), as I explained in my response to Frank    (03)

>and also
>2. Difference between "culture" and "nature" of person at birth, i.e.
>the genetic and epigenetic learned understanding that one is born with
>at birth.    (04)

My explanation of epigenetic (in-born)"knowledge" is migration of emergent 
epi-phenomena of learning, language and such - from meta-physical semantic 
dimension into physical syntactic dimension of genes.    (05)

>3. Difference between primates and humans for 2 above.    (06)

No qualitative difference (Sorry:-). Our meta-physical space (mapped to 
physical structure of brain) is simply much larger and allows the migration 
that I mentioned above accelerate and lead to massive emerging epi-phenomena 
that we call "civilization".    (07)

>4. role of visualization (mental understanding assisted by appropriate
>senses - eyes, touch, smell, etc. rather than everything we learned
>classically in terms of text as Audio-Visual technologies were not
>developed), as well as training of mind to understand universe in terms
>of models as physicists do as they mostly can not "see" the matter or
>energy but infer it from multiple sources and facts including
>experiments    (08)

The "special" role of visualization and other senses is that they form 
syntactic dimension and provide a "bandwidth" allowing accelerate emergent 
processes of semantic formation and migration I described above. Naturally 
migrated (permanent) connections retain their original semantic significance 
for new emergent epi-phenomena. That is the nature of perception.      (09)

>5. Perhaps what is important in this is also the extent to which mind is
>attached to experiences, conversations and phenomena and this is a
>temporal fluctuation, sometimes we hear the conversation and sometimes
>we (inadvertantly) do not?
>    (010)

This cam be explained by chaotic nature of emergent "mind" epi-phenomena. This  
is where order is emerging at "the edge of chaos" borrowing phrase from ... 
(please someone remind me)    (011)

 --Len    (012)

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