Gerry (01)
Yes, whatever can keep young minds engaged on learning will have not
only tremendous synergy and learning acceleration, but will also keep
them out of trouble in early years. (02)
It is well know from statistics that most Nobel Prize winning works are
done under 30 or 40 years of age! (03)
Newer techniques such as virtual worlds, collaboration and recognition
of contributions by young minds will go a long way in meaningfully
improving understanding. I am amazed at the ability of this generation
to learn quickly and welcome it as long as we do not totally neglect the
challenged societies who do not have facility, awareness to get
interested! (04)
Thanks.
Ravi (05)
(Dr. Ravi Sharma) Senior Enterprise Architect (06)
Vangent, Inc. Technology Excellence Center (TEC) (07)
8618 Westwood Center Drive, Suite 310, Vienna VA 22182
(o) 703-827-0638, (c) 313-204-1740 www.vangent.com (08)
Professional viewpoints do not necessarily imply organizational
endorsement. (09)
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Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Wittgenstein and the pictures (010)
Slightly off-topic but we seem to be wandering a bit already. (011)
Some years ago, I worked at the NASA/Johnson Space Center. Our Amateur
Radio club, in conjunction with the American Radio Relay League (a/the
large US Amateur Radio special interest organization) and NASA's Office
of Education, worked together on the Shuttle Amateur Radio Experiment,
or SAREX. In this project, Astronauts learned the radio theory, rules
and regulations, and became licensed operators, and carried with them,
on their missions, a radio kit we had fabricated and gotten approved for (012)
flight. Their intent was to talk to kids, in schools and youth groups,
while flying in space. (013)
In order for a school or youth group to become involved and get a
scheduled contact, they had to agree to teach a curriculum module that
was age-appropriate for their use, that encompassed math, physics,
aerospace engineering and RF/electrical engineering. (014)
I always felt we should concentrate on kids in the 4th-7th grade,
working on phenomena and process, and trying to entice them to follow a
pathway to study more math and science. I felt that, if we so
influenced one child per class, we had succeeded. (015)
There's some evidence that we did better than that. (016)
Attracting our kids before their thought processes are canalized, in the (017)
middle-school/junior-high period, is a key to teaching them to think,
learn and work outside the norms of their parents -- and peers. (018)
We had children who could, by the time they were scheduled to talk to a
crew, calculate positions of an orbiting body, design an antenna tuned
to work on a particular frequency, and determine algorithmically where
to point a directional antenna so as to maximize signal from an orbiting (019)
spacecraft. I'd say this experiment in education worked. (020)
FERENC KOVACS wrote:
> **It is not just that. By teaching children to think (to see how
> concepts are formulated by their own brains, using reflective thinking (021)
> and disciplined logic, reflective inquiry (Dewey's terms)), starting
> from their current achievement and not to follow the presentation of
> knowledge as organised by adult logic of this century, missing out all (022)
> the details of how we got here we can have a) a common access to
> knowledge representations redesigned, b) to the recorded progress of
> individual learners who can follow whatever thread they need to in
that
> master structure or template of knowledge reps.
> I do not understand why in the US people want to augment intellect by
> making gadgets only and not try to make children more inteligent by
> education them in a different way using computers again in a radically (023)
> different way (mirroring the mind, both collectvey and
> individually ).Children get lost and frustrated because some kids can
> think fast and forward ohers cannot and that is the basic cultural
> difference due to teaching them lexical knowledge and no informal
logic,
> reflective thinking. teaching Critical thnkinking s abut taking a
moral
> stand and to become good at disputes.
>
> Thank you for your comment Ravi
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "Sharma, Ravi" <Ravi.Sharma@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: [ontolog-forum] <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, 30 July, 2008 12:10:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Wittgenstein and the pictures
>
> Frank
>
> This is closer to how I think we understand if we are not too
dependant
> on text only for all learning, especially phenomena and processes. If
> these can be taught on similar lines, our youth might become
interested
> in more and more non-book learning.
>
> Thanks.
>
> **Ravi**
>
> **(Dr. Ravi Sharma) **//Senior ////Enterprise Architect//
>
> **Vangent, ****Inc. Technology Excellence Center**** (TEC)**
>
> 8618 Westwood Center Drive, Suite 310, Vienna VA 22182
> (o) 703-827-0638, (c) 313-204-1740 www.vangent.com
<http://www.vangent.com/>
>
> Professional viewpoints do not necessarily imply organizational
endorsement.
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KOVACS
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 29, 2008 1:34 PM
> *To:* ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [ontolog-forum] Wittgenstein and the pictures
>
>
>
> To supplement my comment with citation from authorities
>
> Translation from Hungarian of Tractatus:
>
> 2.1 We create images of facts
>
> 2.12 An image is a model of reality.
>
> 2.13 Objects in a picture correspond to the components of a picture.
>
> 2.14.1 A picture is a fact
>
> 2.182 All pictures are of logic at the same time
>
> 3. The logical picture of facts is an idea
>
>
>
>
> Kindest regards,
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>
> Frank
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