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Re: [ontolog-forum] Cmaps (was: (no subject))

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From: york earwaker <yorkearwaker@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 01:20:19 -0700 (PDT)
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Hi All,    (01)

Many thanks to all of you for your responses to my somewhat obtuse posting, a 
great set of suggestions for further investigation.     (02)

Have any of you similar suggestions for Topic or Mind maps? There seems to me a 
great deal of overlap between Context, Topic and Mind maps. Is this just a 
na´ve conclusion? Is anyone aware of any comparative studies between the three 
types of mapping techniques and representational elements?    (03)

All the best,
York.    (04)


----- Original Message ----
> From: Christopher Spottiswoode <cms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: [ontolog-forum] <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, 12 April, 2008 8:57:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Cmaps (was: (no subject))
> 
> 
> Hi Pat,
> 
> Neat. Thanks for the concise explanation. (But hey, you've only 
> got as far as topics and meta-topics. Still some leeway to catch 
> up with the OMG, with their models, metamodels and 
> metametamodels?)
> 
> Meta levels are of course very much part of our application 
> requirements. (On this kind of forum aren't we all incurably 
> reflective, believing in recursion and, though maybe less 
> plausibly, in the ability of others to follow?) But in MACK 
> reflection requires no gymnastics at the formal level, thanks to 
> the genericity of the basic model.
> 
> That basic model does at last get its full outlines in the coming 
> 4th instalment, due "real soon now".
> 
> Christopher
> 
> PS. Then, perhaps more interestingly (though even more 
> frustratingly at this pre-announcement stage, especially as there 
> is no room for this kind of stuff in the 4th instalment), you will 
> see how the potentially catastrophic computational consequences of 
> such reflection (or is it "introspection"?) may be regarded as 
> manageable (or is it "inevitable"?), thanks to MACK's close-enough 
> match between the modelled and real worlds (itself a rather 
> artificial distinction despite its fundamental or absolute nature 
> (Now there's a lovely reflective conundrum! It's the ultimate 
> Ontological issue of that "pillar 3" of MACK, still to come, but 
> this is some advance notice or warning of such intensely practical 
> matters addressed by MACK.))
> 
> PPS. The PS's final nested reflection - very actual indeed! - was 
> in fact a PPS, just in case the coming 4th instalment might come 
> across as too facile.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Pat Hayes" 
> To: "[ontolog-forum] " 
> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 10:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Cmaps (was: (no subject))
> 
> 
> > Peter has just pointed out to me that this thread has a subject 
> > of "(no subject)", which isn't really a subject at all. Now, one 
> > might argue that this is quite appropriate for a brief sequence 
> > of advertisements for various bits of software and papers about 
> > concept maps, on the grounds either that concept maps are a 
> > non-subject, or that they themselves have no subjects. Still, 
> > following the good practice rule of maintaining a clear 
> > distinction between topics and meta-topics, I am taking this 
> > opportunity of giving the thread an actual subject, if only in 
> > retrospect.
> >
> > Pat
> >
> > PS. That's all.
> > PPS. What? Did you expect an actual topic ??
> 
> 
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