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From: "Christopher Spottiswoode" <cms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 06:23:51 +0200
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Jamie Clark's talk (Thank you Jamie, and thank you Peter for having
organized it!) had a suggestive title we might take good note of:
"Practical lurches towards semantic interoperability".    (01)

Then one of the lurches was what he titled "The Auto Repair Information
Project Saga", in which data exchange specifications were enforced,
"top-down", on a sluggish industry sector by the EU authorities.    (02)

Now Bruce Schneier's Crypto-gram for this month (now on the web at
http://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-0803.html) points us to this:    (03)

> Ross Anderson, Rainer Boehme, Richard Clayton, and Tyler Moore have
> published a major report on security and economics: "Security, Economics,
> and the Internal Market," published by the European Network and
> Information Security Agency (ENISA).
 http://www.enisa.europa.eu/doc/pdf/report_sec_econ_&_int_mark_20080131.pdf    (04)

which proposes a whole raft of legislative measures for the EU's
consideration and adoption.    (05)

As Jamie most aptly commented on one of his slides:    (06)

> Perspective from the KR layman:  from those upon whom semantics are
> visited, not those who invent systems. Realpolitik, not research.    (07)

Much as I have long admired Ross Anderson's always nicely-balanced work on
the role of economics in our security realities, I cannot help insisting
that all these "lurches" are a remarkably shameful reflection on the current
state of our technologies.  For, though I surely preach to the converted
here, since semantic considerations must surely provide the relevant
measures for the scopes of permissions and authorizations, is Ontology not
the field on which all proper progress towards more security-appropriate
technologies should best be founded?    (08)

(P.S.  And yes, my question is of course yet another unashamed
curtain-raiser for that long-promised but still w.i.p. "3rd instalment" of
my "MACK basics" series on this ontolog forum, which will itself be seeking
more specific and practical collaboration with practising Ontologists as
well as security specialists.)    (09)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Yim" <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
To: "[ontolog-forum]" <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 3:38 AM
Subject: [ontolog-forum] Proceedings: Ontolog Invited Speaker - James
BryceClark (OASIS) - Thu 2008.03.13    (010)

We had, on Thursday 13-March-2008, a superb session with invited
speaker Mr. James (Jamie) Bryce Clark, JD, BSc., Director of Standards
Development, OASIS, who gave a talk entitled: "Practical lurches
towards semantic interoperability: standards mash-ups in production
and in development."    (011)

Through multiple case examples, Mr. Clark introduced us to the
organization, process, accomplishments and challenges of open
standards development work at OASIS. Jamie pointed out where semantics
has or could play an increasing important role in open standards. He
concluded by encouraging more collaboration between the ontology
community and the OASIS community. The talk was followed by an
enthusiastic discussion by all participants and our speaker.    (012)

Pursuit of ontological standards in (i) building information
management standards, and in (ii) e-business document interoperability
(as suggested in Professor Dr. Asuman Dogac talk the week before) were
recognized as potential projects where we can bring the expertise of
the ONTOLOG and OASIS communities together, given that we already have
several members that straddle both communities.    (013)

Thank you, Jamie, for sharing your work and insights and for such a
great session. And as always, our appreciations go out to all who
joined us at the event; especially for their contributions to the rich
discussion during the last segment of the session.    (014)

Proceedings of the session are captured on our wiki page, at:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2008_03_13    (015)

In particular, full audio recording of the session, as well as the
podcast of it, is now available -
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2008_03_13#nid1BER    (016)

This contribution from Mr. Jamie Clark is adding yet another piece of
knowledge toward helping us bring about Ontolog's mission of advancing
the field of ontology, ontological engineering and semantic technology
through advocating their adoption into mainstream applications and
international standards.  Thank you again, Jamie and everyone!    (017)

Best regards. =ppy    (018)

Peter Yim
Co-convener, ONTOLOG    (019)

P.S. Again, we will be featuring the 5th Episode of the joint
NASA-Ontolog-KMWG "Ontology in Knowledge Management and Decision
Support" next Thursday, 20-Mar-2008, with our friends from NASA doing
a Panel Session on "Organizing Science Knowledge for Discovery."
Register your participation (in our Thu 2008.03.20 session) if you
haven't already done so. See details at:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2008_03_20    (020)

Watch our [ontolog-invitation] list for further announcements of
Ontolog events that may be of interest, or browse the listing under
the "News & Announcements" section at our Ontolog WikiHomePage (at:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nidW ) for our
upcoming events.    (021)

An archive of noteworthy past Ontolog events can be found at:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nidZ    (022)

Tx. =ppy
--    (023)

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: [ontolog-invitation] Ontolog Invited Speaker - James
Bryce Clark (OASIS) - Thu 2008.03.13
To: ontolog-invitation@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx    (024)

http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2008_03_13    (025)

 *REMINDER*    (026)

 Our Ontolog Invited Speaker Session by Mr. James Bryce Clark, JD,
 BSc., Director of Standards Development from OASIS, on  "Practical
 lurches towards semantic interoperability: standards mash-ups in
 production and in development" is coming up tomorrow, i.e. Thursday,
 13-March-2008, 1.5~2.0 hours, starting at 10:30am PDT / 1:30pm EDT /
 17:30 UTC.
 (Ref. World Clock -    (027)

 ) OASIS (Organization for the Advancement of StructuredInformationStandards), 
representing one of the most prominent standardscommunity ofits kind (with more 
than 5,000 participants in 100 countries),is aconsortium that drives the 
development, convergence and adoption ofopenstandards for the global 
information society. Our invited speaker,JamieClark, Director of Standards 
Development from OASIS, will provide areport,from the open standards domain, on 
some of the current battlefrontsin theKnowledge Representation war to retrofit 
meaning into electronicartifacts.He will provide us with a set of pointers and 
indications of somevirtuousactivities; and will, in particular, help encourage 
the semanticdocumentinteroperability standards work that Professor Dogac 
alluded to atlastweek's session. ... Anyone interested in the topic, especially 
those whoarenow working with XML standards and their implementations, and would 
liketosee how semantics will come into play, should come join us at 
thesession.*RSVP* by e-mailing <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> off-line if you areplanning 
toattend and haven't already responded. As usual, this session isfree andopen; 
so feel free to pass this invitation along to others who mayalso beinterested. 
We look forward to having you at the session. Pleaserefer toagenda and call-in 
details on the session page, whose link appearsat thetop of this message. 
Regards.  =ppy Peter Yim Co-convener, ONTOLOG -->  OnMon, Mar 3, 2008 at 2:08 
AM, Peter P. Yim wrote: [updated] >>****************** Headlines 
*********************** >  > >  >  Wetakepleasure in inviting you to join us at 
the next two >  >  OntologInvitedSpeakers sessions that are related to 
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"Semantic Tools toImproveElectronic >  >  Business Document Interoperability" 
with invitedspeakers >>  Professor Dr. Asuman Dogac and Dr. Yalin Yarimagan, 
both fromthe >  >Middle East Technical University (METU) (Ankara, Turkey). >  > 
  --*Thu 13March 2008* - "Practical lurches towards semantic >  
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