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Re: [ontolog-forum] predicates in RDF

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From: paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 13:02:40 +0700
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Chris and all
thanks for reply
I see a gap, and wonder if anyone else has spotted the problem
I guess, I ll have to write a paper to explain what I am trying to say
I am working on a deadline now
will get back on this later
cheers
PDM    (01)

On Jan 2, 2008 12:43 PM, Chris Menzel <cmenzel@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Jan 2008, paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > Thanks John and Pat
> >
> > I admit, I had a broad range of reactions to that statement
> >
> >> # the predicate is the word "creator"
> > (shrieeekkk, what?, surpise, dispair, bewilderment, incredulity)
>
> But why?  "creator" in that example from the RDF documentation is simply
> short for "is the creator of", which corresponds almost exactly to the
> definition of "predicate" that you yourself provided.
>
> > Maybe thats because the semantic web is being designed by
> > mathematicians and computer scientists, who have little appreciation
> > for natural language?
>
> You are aware that a huge number of linguists are also computer
> scientists, right?  And that modern theories of syntax, for example,
> involve a great deal of very sophisticated mathematics?
>
> > ...RDF is a framework to provide a structure to natural language
>
> Well, I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "providing a structure for
> natural language", but I don't believe there is any reasonable sense in
> which RDF has anything at all to do with providing any sort of structure
> for natural language.  RDF is a FORMAL language for representing
> information on the World Wide Web.  As such it has a very precise formal
> syntax and a mathematical model theory for giving precise definitions of
> truth, validity, and entailment for the language.  Its only connection
> to natural language is that it can be used represent certain pieces of
> information that might be expressed in natural language in a rigorous,
> computer-processable form.
>
>
> -chris
>
>
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