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From: Mills Davis <lmd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 10:49:59 -0400
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Are discussions of proprietary technologies (e.g., that compare, contrast, evaluate) off limits as well? 

For example, Denny's survey of ontology editors. It would seem to be a helpful thing to do. It's like the interoperability summit comparing different upper level ontologies to understand them, how they differ, and how they might work together.  


On Sep 17, 2007, at 10:35 AM, Peter Yim wrote:


Once again,

May I draw people's attention to the Ontolog IPR Policy (see:

... and cordially request that we move discussions of proprietary
technologies (and approaches) offline, or await the events/settings
when we make prior arrangement to waive the "openness' requirement for

Thank you for your attention.

Regards.  =ppy
Peter Yim
Co-convener, Ontolog

On 9/17/07, Dennis Thomas <dlthomas@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Yes, you are right.  I have given this some thought and realize that I
should have elaborated on my reply since it is an opportunity differentiate
our approach from the conventional and accepted approach.  Unfortunately, I
have commitments with an on-going project and cannot respond until this
evening, which I am eager to do.


On Sep 17, 2007, at 5:46 AM, Bill Andersen wrote:

On Sep 17, 2007, at 00:12 , Dennis L. Thomas wrote:

I am aware of the distinctions you defined below, but do not subscribe to
either of these formal definitions of declarative.  To us, what is being
declared is either theory or reality.

You are free to have whatever meanings you like in mind when you use words.
But that makes discourse among educated people a little tough, don'tcha
think?   I'm sure he needs no defending, but Randall's characterization of
the meaning of the term 'declarative' in computer science is completely
conventional and accepted by every computer scientist I know.  Do you not
think that would put some pressure on you to adopt a different term than
'declarative', especially given the confusion with your use of the term
'pre-computation' that has already been covered in this list?


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