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Re: [ontolog-forum] Model or Reality

To: Jerry Hobbs <hobbs@xxxxxxx>
Cc: "[ontolog-forum]" <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: Pat Hayes <phayes@xxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 16:20:03 -0500
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>>  Do you know anything at all about quantum physics, or indeed physics
>>  generally? Find me a place in, say, Feynman's 'lectures on physics'
>>  (or choose your favorite text from the last 50 years) where causality
>>  plays any kind of explanatory role in modern physics.
>Causality slips in in the guise of force, which is central.    (01)

Nah, not classical causality. The cause is always before the effect, 
right? Well, suppose you push against a wall. The wall pushes back 
(Newton 2nd law), which is why nothing moves. Did your force cause 
the reaction force? Seems intuitively clear that it did. But it can't 
possibly precede it, unless the wall moved and then moved back.    (02)

BTW, I didn't know you were reading this stuff, Jerry. Id better be 
more careful what I say :-)    (03)

Pat    (04)

>-- Jerry    (05)

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