Pat Hayes schrieb:
>> Causality slips in in the guise of force, which is central.
>>
>
> Nah, not classical causality. The cause is always before the effect,
> right? (01)
No, it is not. There are several philosophers who argue - starting the
way you do below - that cause and effect have to be simultaneous (but
that it is still a matter of causality). I happen to be one among them;
see my "Ontological Investigations" (Routledge 1989, ontos verlag 2004),
chapter 12 ("Efficient Causality"). (02)
Best wishes,
Ingvar Johansson (03)
> Well, suppose you push against a wall. The wall pushes back
> (Newton 2nd law), which is why nothing moves. Did your force cause
> the reaction force? Seems intuitively clear that it did. But it can't
> possibly precede it, unless the wall moved and then moved back.
>
> BTW, I didn't know you were reading this stuff, Jerry. Id better be
> more careful what I say :-)
>
> Pat
>
>
>> -- Jerry
>>
>
>
> (04)
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Ingvar Johansson
IFOMIS, Saarland University
home site: http://ifomis.org/
personal home site:
http://hem.passagen.se/ijohansson/index.html (05)
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