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Re: [ontolog-forum] confounded models

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From: "Barker, Sean (UK)" <Sean.Barker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 17:02:39 +0100
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I should also have said that set theory is entirely based on differentia
(a set is something for which it is possible to decide if X in in the
set or not), and not on models of what a set represents. You could use
sets as models, but set theory doesn't care - {"snow is white", snow,
Taski} intersect {Russell, "1+1=2", Principia Mathematica} = {}.
:-)discuss:-)    (01)


Sean Barker
Bristol, UK    (02)

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> Alternatively, one could treat the taxonomy not as a model, 
> (these terms 'are an image of' reality) but as a system of 
> differentia (these criteria map reality into this set of 
> terms). The question is then not whether one system was more 
> truthlike than another, but whether the differentia are 
> adequate for our purposes.
> 
> This is not to say that a model and set of differentia are 
> mutually exclusive - 'ideally' they should give the same 
> system - but using one does not require that one construct the other.
> 
> A consequential question - are ontologies (in the computing 
> sense) defined only by models, or can they be defined by 
> differentia, and what would this mean for interoperability?
> 
> Sean Barker
> Bristol, UK
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> > Gary Berg-Cross schrieb:
> > > Now, if I had relied on earlier biological understanding I
> > would have
> > > a different taxonomy of life, kingdoms etc.  No
> > superkingdoms at all.
> > >
> > > Did this earlier view reflect biological reality?  Which of the 
> > > alternatives discussed above reflects reality now?
> > >   
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> > I would say that the earlier view had quite a high degree of 
> > truthlikeness, and that the more recent view probably has a 
> somewhat 
> > higher degree of truthlikeness. (I hope have you read at 
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> > a discussion on the notion of 'truthlikeness' that took place some 
> > months ago in this forum.)
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