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Re: [ontolog-forum] confounded models

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From: Pat Hayes <phayes@xxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 10:12:07 -0500
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On Jul 17, 2007, at 8:50 AM, Kathryn Blackmond Laskey wrote:    (01)

> At 5:44 PM -0500 7/16/07, Pat Hayes wrote:
>> On Jul 16, 2007, at 5:20 PM, Gary Berg-Cross wrote:
>>
>>>  Pat, Barry
>>>
>>>  Most authors who write biology text books don't know about, or
>>>  aren't thinking about Taskian models.
>>
>> They may not know about them, but they can still be thinking about
>> them.  Just as someone who knows nothing of botany can think about
>> plants.
>
> I don't think it's correct to say they "really are" thinking about
> Tarskian models even if they don't know about them.  However, it is
> the case that their thought processes are logically consistent to the
> degree that they could be formalized as Tarskian models of a set of
> axioms.    (02)

Those seem exactly the same to me. Suppose I know nothing about set  
theory, and am thinking about six pennies on a table in front of me  
(say, trying to solve a puzzle). Is it correct to say that I am  
thinking about members of a set containing six pennies? IMO, yes, it  
is. Because the members of the set are the pennies, and I am thinking  
about those pennies.    (03)

Now, suppose I am a scientist thinking about some scientific topic,  
and putting my thoughts into reasonably exact words. I might be  
thinking about, say, the energy levels of a photon being emitted from  
an organic molecule which I have synthesized. If my thoughts/ 
assertions are veridical, then they relate to the reality they  
describe in a certain way. That relationship is what Tarskian truth  
theory describes. So if my thoughts are veridical, then they relate  
to some reality in a Tarskian way: in other words, that (piece of )  
reality is a Tarskian model of my thoughts/assertions. That is all I  
meant. Now, this does not mean that I am thinking about Tarskian  
theory or even need to have heard of Tarskian theory, any more than  
in the first example I need to know set theory to think about coins.  
Nevertheless, the objects of my thought in the first case are the  
elements of a set, and in the second case are a Tarskian model of my  
thoughts.    (04)

Pat    (05)


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