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Re: [ontolog-forum] Confusion about 'model'

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From: Waclaw Kusnierczyk <Waclaw.Marcin.Kusnierczyk@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 11:57:52 +0200
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Ingvar Johansson wrote:
> Waclaw Kusnierczyk schrieb:
>> I see that the problem of the simple statement which I posted here a few 
>> days ago:
>> [WK] Constrained expressivity does not mean that what you say about
>>  >> the world is necessarily confused -- it is just a model which is much
>>  >> more simple than the modeled reality.
>> has given ground to an interesting discussion in which the most 
>> honourable authorities participate.
>> I'd like therefore to come back to the source of disagreement and try to 
>> get a short answer to the following question:
>> Q: Is it essentially wrong to say that a sentence about (a part of) 
>> reality is a model of it?
> In my opinion, this question is impossible to answer before you know 
> what kind of use (realistic, fictional, or assumptive) the sentence is 
> put to. If a sentence is used in the realistic sense, then one might on 
> a meta-level say that it is a kind of proposed model of reality that 
> might be true, truthlike, or false. On the ordinary level one simply 
> talks about the world, but  one may well move up onto a meta-level and 
> talk about the relationship between the sentence and the world.    (01)

So you have actually answered the question:  if there are situations in 
which it does make sense to say that a sentence about reality is a model 
of it, then it is not *essentially* wrong to say that.  It might have 
been wrong under the interpretation Barry assigned to it (somewhat 
mistakenly wrt. my intentions).    (02)

vQ    (03)

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