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Re: [ontolog-forum] Confusion about 'model'

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From: "Smith, Barry" <phismith@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 15:55:35 +0200
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At 02:52 PM 7/15/2007, you wrote:
>Barry said:
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> >When I say
> >'the cat is on the mat' I, for one, am not intending to create a
> >model of reality. Rather, I am attempting to say something about
> >reality itself (this very cat).
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>It depends on the intention of the speaker.
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>When I say this as part of an ontology analyis it means to convey 
>part of a formal model and is
>different than when I am, for example, answering the question, 
>"Where's the cat?",
>which I can do with the informal model I use to act knowledgably in the world.    (01)


But when one is building an ontology for, e.g., cell biology, is one 
trying to build a model of the cell, or rather to create a formally 
coherent controlled vocabulary for talking about cells and their parts?
BS
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>Waclaw says
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>You can use any language, of any expressivity, and still do silly
> >things.  Constrained expressivity does not mean that what you say about
> >the world is necessarily confused -- it is just a model which is much
> >more simple than the modeled reality.
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>What, I wonder, does he mean by 'it'? Does he mean the language (is
>OWL or any other language intended to be a model of reality)? Or some
>statement or collection of statements in some language? When I say
>'the cat is on the mat' I, for one, am not intending to create a
>model of reality. Rather, I am attempting to say something about
>reality itself (this very cat).
>BS
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