|Date:||Thu, 14 Jun 2007 21:33:29 +0700|
I have scanned Barry's (intringuing) paper, but do not have time to study in detail - being o and c
not central to my problems right now - I also did a keyword search in the paper for concept,conceptual and and conceptualization, with zero results (bug in my world? - or have they manged to make the c world disappear without trace and still discuss the notions attached to it in the paper? - please indicate what page/line is the argument if you could)
Will study in more detail when I have time.
You mean there is no actual concrete proposal to ban the term 'concept' from the discourse, rather an informal suggestion or just avoid it - phew
I would agree that we need to objectivize what is in our mind, and that ontology building is part of that effort. But the mind (individual) is the only organ that we have capable of producing abstraction
and not sure if we should detach ourselves from the only generic term that we have to refer to the representation of that abstraction (the conceptualization) that we are capable of.
I need to project the product of my mind (a concept) into the physical world, and need an umbrella term for it (apologies for the circularity). Linguistic fuzziness has a role, although I agree it is not always the best choice.
I remember when I went to school teachers asked us to avoid using the term 'thing' and asked us to make an effort to use a more appropriate word , for example, instead of saying I feel something (undefined) we should look for a more appropriate vocabulary (I feel an emotion, or I feel this and feel that), thus helping us to develop our linguisti skills by learning how to use more precise words
I am not sure that our languages are adequately developed to be able to support and express all the abstract generalizations/ concepts that the mind can conceive, maybe thats why we use a generalization of something abstract that we do not have words for as 'concept'. Generalizations are necessary because they allow anyone to visualize their own thing,
But if it is a choice of words that you are after (avoiding to use a term which is potentially confusing to some) then I respect the choice, except that I wont be able to find relevant paragraph where the notion of 'concept' is discussed if you avoid it.
I still think if we avoid 'concept' and derived words, we need to find a set of valid substitutes, lest we find ourselves lost for words - representation of the abstraction perhaps is an equivalent _expression_, or should we avoid that too, and the entire class of terms that refer to generic abstract representations?
I think 'notion' is a word I use as a synonym of concept, (rather than umbrella?), but somehow it is not so 'expressive' , and maybe would end up with the same issue later on?
Or maybe, just maybe, the word concept is a little abused, a cover word for when we dont know what to say really. The rather than avoid it, we should learn how to use it only when appropriate?
boh - what a problem eh?
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