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Re: [ontolog-forum] Ontology and methodology

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From: Florian Probst <f.probst@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 22:38:39 +0100
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Pat Hayes wrote:
>> Inline:
>> On 3/20/07 10:58 AM, "Cassidy, Patrick J." <pcassidy@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>  Pat Hayes raised several issues I think are worth further discussion,
>>>  but I would like to focus on 2 of them:
>>>    (1) Hasn't building a common foundation ontology already been tried?
>> DN: I believe both SUMO and DOLCE qualify here, yes?
> SUMO, but not DOLCE. I would describe DOLCE as a framework rather 
> than an ontology. But given PatC's further explanation, I concede 
> that what he is talking about has never been achieved. An 'upper' 
> ontology isn't the same thing as a basic set of concepts out of which 
> you can define all others. That is much more ambitious.
Dear Pat,
I am curious to learn why you consider DOLCE a framework rather than an 
ontology. DOLCE and BFO seem to me the most rigorous and philosophically 
sound attempts to provide structure to domain ontologies that are 
currently available. What is the purpose of a foundational ontology if 
not to serve as common denominator? Or in your words, as a set of 
concepts out of which you can define all others? I think, Patrick C made 
an important point by asking how to relate the many different formalized 
conceptualizations (domain ontologies) if not via a small set of concepts.
For geographic space, any country has its own geographic coordinate 
system and specialized map projections. The world that these maps 
represent is in all maps the same, yet it might be differently depicted 
(represented). In cartography, coordinate transformation is a long 
solved problem, because it was possible to define a "geodetic datum". 
If  two cartographers commit to such a geodetic datum, they can 
translate the positions represented in one map(projection) into another.
Why not achieving such a "semantic datum" for ontologies?
>>  If by foundation, you
>> mean the expression of first order logic.
> No, I meant it in PatC's sense.
>> SUMO has got to be my most
>> favorite work in the ontology field I have seen to date.
> I have to admit it is a lot better than I thought it was going to be :-)
> Pat
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