just to say that I will be at ISWC and will probably be at Mediate'05. (01)
john (02)
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From: "David Martin" <martin@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Amit Sheth @ LSDIS" <amit@xxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Michael Maximilien" <maxim@xxxxxxxxxx>; "Peter P. Yim"
<peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>; "John Domingue" <j.b.domingue@xxxxxxxxxx>; "Nicolas F
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Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 6:37 AM
Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Technical Discussion Session on "Semantic Web
Service Ontology Standard" - Thu 2005.10.20 (03)
> Another possibility for follow-up meetings/panels/discussions is at ISWC
> 2005, week after next in Ireland.
>
> http://iswc2005.semanticweb.org/
>
> Regards,
> David
>
> Amit Sheth @ LSDIS wrote:
>>
>> Michael,
>> Would you or someone from the group be interested in offering a
>> panel/follow up at ICSOC-DWP
>> (http://lsdis.cs.uga.edu/projects/meteor-s/dwp2005/), or another workshop
>> (mainly Mediate'05).
>> If so, I can look to see if there is a slot.
>>
>> Amit
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael Maximilien wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Let me start by seconding Peter and thanking all the presenters and to
>>> Nicolas for moderating.
>>>
>>> I was wondering how we could follow-up on the discussions we have
>>> started during the panel? In particular, does it make sense to have
>>> some workshop or some other form of discussions? One approach is to
>>> meet during an existing conference, e.g., the up coming ICSOC 2005
>>> conference in Amsterdam in December of this year?
>>>
>>> I am particularly interested in business applications of SWS and the
>>> scenarios where the technologies are applicable. In some sense, I see
>>> the basic vision of SWS as not only a path to help automate some aspects
>>> of SOA solutions but from a broader view to help move IT services and
>>> processes (engagements) to the Web.
>>>
>>> I am thinking of how IT service providers (e.g., IBM Global Services,
>>> Accenture, and so on) currently execute service engagements or
>>> particularly the kind of collaboration, knowledge, cocreation of value,
>>> and so on, that occurs in a service engagement. With the Web as the
>>> service delivery platform, SOAs are allowing a dynamic substrate for IT
>>> service providers and consumers. However, as we all know, one thing
>>> that is missing from current approaches, to enable better automation, is
>>> a conceptualization of the semantics in the domain and the services as
>>> well as tools, techniques, and approaches to take advantage of that
>>> formalization. And of course, that is exactly what the SWS community
>>> has been researching and continues to research. (This is also very much
>>> in line with a broader push by IBM research to create a science of
>>> services. See the SSME site => http://www.research.ibm.com/ssme/)
>>>
>>> SHAMELESS PLUG: Peter and I and working to get Jim Spohrer to present
>>> IBM's SSME research efforts to the ontolog-forum on December 8th)
>>>
>>> However, an apparent comment is that the SWS vision seems like a
>>> daunting task to achieve; and it begs for pragmatic and evolutionary
>>> approaches... hence some of the comments of making sure to align
>>> closely with the Web services industry efforts and some of the praises
>>> for the WSDL-S initiative.
>>>
>>> Nonetheless, maybe the various threads and approaches are necessary for
>>> progress and we should question the current assumptions underlying the
>>> Web services standards. The REST and Web 2.0 approach to implementing
>>> Web services certainly seems to be doing just that and getting good
>>> traction...
>>>
>>> Where do we go from here?
>>>
>>> Thoughts, suggestions, comments, questions, or feedback in general is
>>> welcome.
>>>
>>> E. M. (Max) Maximilien, Ph.D.
>>> IBM Almaden Research Center
>>> San Jose, CA USA
>>> maxim@xxxxxxxxxx
>>> Homepage: http://maximilien.org
>>>
>>> "Peter P. Yim" <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote on 10/20/2005 06:16:50 PM:
>>>
>>> > We had an most wonderful virtual session today with Nicolas
>>> > Rouquette from NASA/JPL who moderated the Discussion on "Semantic
>>> > Web Service Ontology Standard".
>>> >
>>> > Thanks to our distinguished panel, which included David Martin
>>> > (OWL-S), John Domingue (WSMO), Amit Sheth (WSDL-S) and Michael
>>> > Gruninger (SWSF / FLOWS), and the experts in the audience, we
>>> > collectively delved into the various perspectives and approaches
>>> > being taken by the state-of-the-art researchers on the subject
>>> > matter. We tried to make some sense of the current situation, and
>>> > even suggested where things should possibly be heading. Please
>>> > refer, again, to details at the session wiki page at
>>> > ConferenceCall_2005_10_20 where the presented materials and a lot
>>> > of relevant resources have now been posted for everyone's reference.
>>> >
>>> > The digitized (mp3) audio recording of the entire discussion has
>>> > also been posted. As usual, this will be archived in our
>>> > knowledge repository for reference and download by anyone
>>> > interested. Additionally, for the next 10 days, telephone
>>> > playback will also available. See details at:
>>> >
>>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_10_20#nidFQQ
>>> >
>>> > Thanks & regards. =ppy (04)
>>> >
>>> > P.S. Our next major events is scheduled for Thursday, Nov. 3,
>>> > 2005, Mr. Rex Brooks from HumanMarkup.org will be moderating a
>>> > Take-II (as a follow-up to our 2005.08.25 session) of the Panel
>>> > Discussion on "Healthcare Informatics Landscapes, Roadmaps, and
>>> > Blueprints: Towards a Business Case Strategy for Large Scale
>>> > Ontology Projects". Please mark your calendars ... and, watch out
>>> > for our announcements on these two events which should be coming
>>> > out any moment now.
>>> >
>>> > P.P.S. In view of the fact that the National Center for
>>> > Ontological Research (NCOR) will be having their Inaugural Event
>>> > next Thursday (at Buffalo, NY), where a good number of our
>>> > community members will be present at, we will NOT be having our
>>> > regular weekly conference call that day (repeat, no call on
>>> > 2005.10.27). So, talk to you again Thu 2005.11.03 =ppy
>>> > --
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Peter P. Yim wrote Fri, 14 Oct 2005 10:04:29 -0700:
>>> > > ...
>>> > > *ANNOUNCEMENT*
>>> > >
>>> > > We are pleased to announce our Technical Discussion session
>>> > > scheduled
>>> > > for next Thursday, Oct. 20, 2005. The topic to be discussed will be:
>>> > > "Semantic Web Service Ontology Standard". We are expecting a
>>> > > distinguished panel and some of the top researchers and
>>> practitioners at
>>> > > the session. We will delve into the still divergent perspectives and
>>> > > approaches being taken on the subject matter during this session.
>>> > > Collectively, we will attempt to make some sense of the current
>>> state of
>>> > > affairs, and possibly suggest where things should be heading.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > *Conference call-in details*:
>>> > >
>>> > > Date: Thursday, Oct. 20, 2005
>>> > > Start Time: 10:30am PDT / 1:30pm EDT / 17:30 UTC (World Time:
>>> > > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?
>>> > month=10&day=20&year=2005&hour=10&min=30&sec=0&p1=224
>>> > >
>>> > > Session Duration: 2 Hours
>>> > > Dial-in Number: +1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada, USA)
>>> > > Participant Access Code: "686564#"
>>> > > VNC shared-screen support available
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > * Topic: "*Semantic Web Service Ontology Standard*"
>>> > >
>>> > > * Moderator: Nicolas Rouquette (NASA/JPL)
>>> > >
>>> > > * Organizing Team:
>>> > > o Nicolas Rouquette (NASA/JPL),
>>> > > o John Domingue (KMI, UK), &
>>> > > o E. Michael Maximilien (IBM)
>>> > >
>>> > > * Panelists:
>>> > > o David Martin (SRI) - OWL-S
>>> > > o John Domingue (KMI, UK) - WSMO
>>> > > o Amit Sheth (U of Georgia) - WSDL-S, and
>>> > > o Michael Gruninger (U of Toronto) - SWSF / FLOWS
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > *Refer to details on the session wiki page at:*
>>> > > http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_10_20
>>> > >
>>> > > This will be a virtual session over an augmented conference call.
>>> > > The entire session will be recorded and made available as open
>>> content
>>> > > under the prevailing Ontolog IPR policy (see:
>>> > > http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nid32).
>>> > >
>>> > > I look forward to having you at this open session. Please pass this
>>> > > announcement along to those who might be interested to join us
>>> too. All
>>> > > are welcomed.
>>> > >
>>> > > RSVP by by emailing me at <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> offline.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Regards. =ppy (04)
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