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From: Adam Pease <adampease@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 10:01:29 -0800
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   This sounds like a good opportunity.  I would suggest that we offer SUMO 
+ MILO + Invoice as core components.  I also agree that after people start 
trying to formalize terms (my message of 1/16/04 suggests who might try 
which terms) and come up to speed, that Tim's list would be a good next step.
   I've left off the UBL mailing list from the cc list until the group 
reaches consensus on this.    (01)

Adam    (02)

At 06:34 AM 2/12/2004 -0800, Peter Yim wrote:
>Hi Everyone,
>Given our charter, I would invite the [ontolog] community to:
>1. review Tim's input (message below and the two attachments).
>2. seek clarification (where appropriate), discuss & comment. Note that 
>Tim McGrath (UBL-LCSC), Sue Probert (UN/CEFACT-TBG17), and a good number 
>of pertinent players (like Monica Martin, Bill McCarthy, John Yunker, 
>Farruhk Najmi, Marion Royal, Eduardo Gutentag, ... etc.) are actually 
>either active or observing on this [ontolog-forum] list.
>3. consider how "you" would (or "we" should) have tackled it, with an 
>ontological engineering approach, giving the methodologies the ontolog 
>community has been deliberating and working on.
>4. consider tackling this as our first real formalization requirement in 
>the UBL-Ontology project, once we, as a team, get past learning the ropes 
>in SUO-KIF formalization. (ok with you, Adam?)
>5. would be wonderful if we can reach some concrete and actionable 
>conclusions (in relatively short order) and provide that as feedback and 
>recommendations to Tim/UBL.
>6. for other pertinent references, see: 
>-------- Original Message --------
>Subject: [ubl-lcsc] Modeling Core Component Types
>Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 15:01:40 +0800
>From: Tim McGrath <tmcgrath@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: ubl-lcsc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>The UBL Library has been built upon a set of data types/core component
>types defined by the CEFACT CCTS v2.0 specification.
>To date, we have relied upon hand crafted schemas to define these. This 
>has resulted in a few problems...
>a. the schemas have to be mapped to the representation terms in the UBL 
>b. they have not always been synchronized with other deliverables
>c. the provide a disjointed view of the overall UBL library.
>Over the past few weeks we had had various discussions about how to deal 
>with this in a more controlled manner.
>One of the options is to go back to our basic design approach and create 
>models of these from which XSD code can be generated.  I know the Michael 
>Dill has been keen to see this.
>To this end I have dug into the CCTS specification and created a model
>of the Core Component Types - both as a UML Class Diagram and a UBL
>format spreadsheet model.  These are attached.  My objective was to
>create structures that modelled the Dictionary Entry Names in the
>I would be interested in other opinions on this strategy - particularly 
>Michael and the TBG17 group.
>PS this exercise exposed a few typos (i suspect) in the specification so 
>few objects have slightly different names.
>tim mcgrath
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