Great questions, Pat. (01)
I believe this is high time to invite UBL folks (like Tim and those
who worked on the UBL deliverables first hand) back for some real-time
exchange. (02)
However, as we speak, the UBL TC is actually meeting in Montreal now
(July 28 ~ Aug 1, 2003). Let's wait till they are done with their
meeting first; and let's try to schedule something with Tim et al. (03)
-ppy (04)
P.S. Tim: when you have a chance, please let us know what would be a
good time to schedule another session when you can join us at a phone
conference (our regular calls are Thursdays 10:30-11:30am California
time.) -ppy
-- (05)
Patrick Cassidy wrote Tue, 29 Jul 2003 00:46:08 -0400:
> Peter is correct, I forgot to change the
> extensions in the file names for the Protege files:
> ---
> Peter P. Yim wrote Mon, 28 Jul 2003 16:28:25 -0700:
>
>> Pat,
>>
>> Thank you for the work, looks great! Definitely got us off to a start
>> on Protégé. A few quick comments:
>>
>> 1. Your files:
>>
>> > The new Protege files are at:
>> >
>> > ftp://micra.com/ontolog/UBLinv013.pins
>> > ftp://micra.com/ontolog/UBLinv013.pins
>> > ftp://micra.com/ontolog/UBLinv013.pins
>>
>> Guess you meant:
>>
>> ftp://micra.com/ontolog/UBLinv013.pprj
>> ftp://micra.com/ontolog/UBLinv013.pont
>> ftp://micra.com/ontolog/UBLinv013.pins
>>
>
> About the xls file:
>
>
>> 2. UBL reference:
>>
>> > ... that the xsd files have the most detailed and
>> > authoritative representations ...
>>
>> While it is true that UBL, as an OASIS Technical Committee has XSD's
>> as the normative deliverable (since OASIS has primarily been in XML
>> interoperability), and hence, the authoritative part, the UBL Library
>> Content people actually started work on spreadsheets. Therefore, the
>> spreadsheets, in particular, the file:
>>
>>
>http://ubl.cim3.org/~lcsc/release/0p70/xls/UBL_Library_0p70_normalized_components.xls
>
>>
>>
>> should be the one that has captured the most amount of pertinent
>> information (some of which weren't represented in the xsd's). A lot of
>> the class hierarchies, the construct of the UBL name, cardinality (see
>> column "J"), ... etc.
>>
>
> The xls file is another format that can help figure out what is
> intended. (06)
> I notice that the XLS file has associations not
> in the xsd file. (07)
> But I haven't yet found the place where the class
> hierarchies are indicated -- which class is supposed to be
> a subclass of another. Can anyone help me with this? (08)
> Also, I do see some things there that I'm not clear on. (09)
> For example, in the column H (Assoc Object Class) I see the term
> "Shipment" without any qualifier term in the previous column. But
> I don't find "Shipment" by itself in any of the files I've looked at.
> Should there be a "Shipment" class that is a parent of "OrderedShipment"
> and "ActualShipment"? (010)
> If so, is it specified in some file? (011)
> Does every class with a qualifier term imply that
> there is some parent class without the qualifier?
> (012)
>> Besides, the spreadsheet featured 548 pertinent entries too (as
>> opposed to 92).
>>
> The 92 entries transcribed were the "complexTypes" and if the
> properties and associations of these are counted (as they would be
> if one counted the lines in the xls file), there will be several
> hundred, but I haven't tried counting. In fact I only find
> about 60 complex types in the "normalized_components" xls file.
> The "Reusable" xls file has 92 complexTypes and over 600
> lines. There is a lot of duplication between these two xls files. (013)
> Does anyone know the different functions of the two xls files?
> [normalized vs reusable] (014)
> Also, I can't find a "normalized components" xsd file. (015)
> Can anyone
> say why the different formats have different sets of files? (016)
>
> Pat
> (017)
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