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From: Rex Brooks <rexb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 08:34:24 -0700
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>Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 02:05:58 -0400
>From: "Michelle Raymond" <michellearaymond@xxxxxxxxx>
>To: "Peter Yim" <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>, "Deborah MacPherson" 
><debmacp@xxxxxxxxx>,
>       "Rex Brooks" <rexb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Bob Smith" <bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
>       "Considine, Toby (Campus Services IT)" <Toby.Considine@xxxxxxx>,
>       "John Graham" <johng@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: BIM>GIS
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>All,
>
>BIM>GIS information needed...
>
>Monday morning I am meeting with a few people at NIST who are looking
>into the Industry Foundation Classes (IFC) and Building Information
>Model (BIM) as a source of at least part of the common vocabulary and
>machine processable information structures needed for fast extraction
>and presentation of pertinent data to emergency responders.  An
>example of how IFC / BIM data can be translated into slices of
>2D-floor plan data and graphics would be VERY useful.
>
>We intend to discuss the 2D (yes we still need 2D views) data and
>drawing problem, extraction and classification assignment methods for
>pertinent data, rule based systems for filtering and mapping data,
>multi-source data input aggregation, and data exchange languages,
>policies and protocols.  Obviously, this won't all be covered Monday
>morning.  So we'll continue the discussion on Tuesday afternoon.
>
>Any examples, insight or good references on extraction of the specific
>data defined as "needed by the emergency responders" that is contained
>in the BIM would be a HUGE help.  The needed BIM data is likely to
>cross the Industry Foundation Classes (IFC), Model View Definition
>(MVD), Information Delivery Manual (IDM) and other aspects of the BIM
>with which I don't yet have even a nodding acquaintance.
>
>Here is a snippet of the variety of types of information needed:
>location of gas shutoff, the interior walls that are firewalls,
>existence of hazardous roof construction features (such as steel bar
>joists or tensioned concrete), occurrence of an impending over
>temperature condition (IOT) condition within the elevator controllers,
>phone number for the building engineer, NFPA 704 code for the
>hazardous material located in a specific space, ...
>
>I don't want to do more than frame the approach to constructing the
>ontology for the "support of emergency management view into the BIM"
>until things are less fuzzy about which pieces of data are where in
>the BIM and how the data can be extracted.
>
>Oh, and if you have a favorite BIM applications or tools, usable in
>the AFTER construction and IN the operational facility phase,
>particularly for data extraction, I'd love to know what they are.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Michelle
>
>
>
>
>
>On 5/4/08, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>  Deborah (& Michelle),
>>
>>  Thank you for the message ... by the way, did you (or Michelle) have a
>>  chance to chat with either Gary Berg-Corss or Todd Schneider during
>>  the Ontology Summit F2F last week. They are both (Mike Dean too)
>>  involved in an activity under the auspices of the "Spatial Ontology
>>  Community of Practice (SOCoP)" which could have relevance, or a
>>  potential collaborator, in this work you are describing here -  see:
>>  http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?SOCoP
>>
>>  ... If not (yet), at least, know that you/we could readily connect up
>>  with them when the time is ripe to do so.
>>
>>  Regards.  =ppy
>>  --
>>
>>
>>  On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Deborah MacPherson 
>><debmacp@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>  > Hi Rex, Bob, Michelle, Toby, Peter -
>>  >
>>  > Bonnie DeVarco on the Accuracy&Aesthetics board has recently put me
>  > > re-in-touch with John Graham at SDSU.  A few years ago he did a 
>***REALLY***
>>  > terrific representation of the tsumami for an exhibition with the maps of
>>  > science.  He is interested in BIM>GIS connections especially in 
>>the context
>>  > of emergency response and would like to know more.  His message is copied
>>  > below for technical details.
>>  >
>>  > "We do a lot of work with the first responder community so I am very
>>  > interested in what your group is doing in that regard. I am currently
>>  > hosting the FlightGear Scenery Database which includes 
>>scenegraph models of
>>  > many buildings and airfields. The database currently contains 762 models
>>  > placed in the scenery as 994055 seperate objects. We are developing a WCS
>>  > "Web Coverage Service" to stream these models into flightgear on 
>>the fly :)
>>  > These models are stored in a Postgres database with PostGIS spatial data
>>  > extensions so we have the ability to do some pretty fancy web services. I
>>  > would love to join your call let me know the details."
>>  >
>>  > Also, last week, Finith Jergenson of Design Atlantic who landed the fire
>>  > stations at last 2 BIMstorms has sent some materials I've been pondering
>>  > over (sent Michelle a ppt/pdf).  It is sounding more and more like there
>>  > could really be something to work with here.
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > Deborah
>>  >
>>  > --
>>  >
>>  > *************************************************
>>  >  Deborah L. MacPherson
>>  > Projects Director, Accuracy&Aesthetics
>>  > Specifier, WDG Architecture PLLC
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