OntologySummit2011: Panel Session-8 - "Grand Challenges" - Thu 2011_03_24    (2PBX)

Summit Theme: OntologySummit2011: Making the Case for Ontology    (2PBY)

Session Title: Grand Challenges    (2PBZ)

Session Co-chairs: Dr. RamSriram (NIST), Mr. ErnieLucier (NCO_NITRD) & Dr. AldenDima (NIST)    (2PC0)

Panelists:    (2PC1)

Abstract:    (2PE1)

OntologySummit2011 Theme: "Making the Case for Ontology"    (2PE2)

This is our 6th Ontology Summit, a joint initiative by NIST, Ontolog, NCOR, NCBO, IAOA & NCO_NITRD. The theme adopted for this Ontology Summit is: "Making the Case for Ontology."    (2PE4)

This year's Ontology Summit seeks to address the need to provide concrete evidence of successful deployment of ontologies by examining several application domains for such examples, and in better articulating where different "strengths" of ontological representation are best applied. To support that, the summit also aims to classify the categories of applications where ontology has been, and could be, successfully applied; to identify distinct types of metrics that might be used in evaluating the return on investment in an ontology application (cost, capability, performance, etc.); to lay out some strategies for articulating a case for ontological applications; and to identify remaining challenges and roadblocks to a wider deployment of such applications that represent promising application areas and research challenges for the future. The findings of the summit will be documented in the form of a communiqué intended for public consumption.    (2PE5)

This Panel Session is organized and co-chaired by our Track-5 co-champions. They are bringing together an expert panel to join everyone here today to summarize current state of the art on ontology use, determine gaps that hinder real-world ontology applications, enumerate the actions that need to be taken to overcome these gaps, and brainstorm ideas for a grand challenge problem.    (2PE6)

See developing details on this Summit series of events at: OntologySummit2011 (home page for this summit)    (2PE7)

Agenda:    (2PE8)

Ontology Summit 2011 - Panel Session-8    (2PE9)

Proceedings:    (2PEF)

Please refer to the above    (2PEG)

IM Chat Transcript captured during the session:    (2PEH)

 see raw transcript here.    (2PEI)
 (for better clarity, the version below is a re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript.)
 Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.    (2PEJ)
 -- begin in-session chat-transcript --    (2PEK)
	PeterYim: Welcome to the    (2QOH)
	OntologySummit2011: Panel Session-8 - "Grand Challenges" - Thu 2011_03_24    (2QOI)
	Summit Theme: OntologySummit2011: Making the Case for Ontology    (2QOJ)
	Session Title: Grand Challenges    (2QOK)
	Session Co-chairs: Dr. RamSriram (NIST), Mr. ErnieLucier (NCO_NITRD) & Dr. AldenDima (NIST)    (2QOL)
	Panelists:    (2QOM)
	* Dr. ChristopherWelty (IBM Research) - "The next grand challenge for Watson-like systems" * 
	Professor RameshJain (UC Irvine) - "Ontology-based Event Recognition" * Professor EliotSiegel (U of 
	Maryland School of Medicine, Baltimore) - "The Dr. Watson project" * Professor ChristopherChute 
	(Mayo Clinic) - "Relationships among Biomedical Ontologies and Classifications: The ICD11 Use-case" 
	* Professor NabilAdam (DHS, Rutgers) - "Ontology Application in Homeland Security" * Ms. 
	EileenBartholomew (X Prize) - "Revolution through Competition: Designing effective incentive prizes" 
	- Presented by Mr. ChristopherFrangione    (2QON)
	For details (agenda, dial-in numbers, slides, process instructions, etc.) please refer to the 
	session page at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2011_03_24    (2QOO)
	anonymous morphed into NabilAdam    (2QOP)
	anonymous morphed into EliotSiegel    (2QOQ)
	anonymous morphed into MyCoyne    (2QOR)
	anonymous morphed into ChrisWelty    (2QOS)
	anonymous morphed into ChristopherSpottiswoode    (2QOT)
	anonymous morphed into FabianNeuhaus    (2QOU)
	anonymous morphed into AlexGarcia    (2QOV)
	anonymous2 morphed into DavidPrice    (2QOW)
	PeterYim: == session started 9:38am PDT ... RamSriram doing the opening    (2QOX)
	SteveRay: Standard cheat sheet: *2 to mute; *3 to unmute    (2QOY)
	PeterYim: == ChrisWelty presenting ...    (2QOZ)
	AlexGarcia: where are Chris slides?    (2QP0)
	PeterYim: @AlexGarcia - ChrisWelty will not have slides (as indicated on the session page)    (2QP1)
	PeterYim: will those participants who are still recognized as "anonymous" please morph into your 
	real name (click on the "Settings" button at the top center and change there) so we can know who's 
	here and properly attribute contributions    (2QP2)
	anonymous1 morphed into DavidMakovoz    (2QP3)
	RexBrooks: I assume that "Shallow Methods" doesn't include deep ontological resources, e.g. 
	triplestores. Correct? If so, how was the semantic "meaning" of text sources derived?    (2QP4)
	anonymous1 morphed into ChrisChute    (2QP5)
	PeterYim: @RamSriram (or any of the co-chairs) - would you please capture ChrisWelty's suggested 
	Grand Challenge problem(s) onto the chat-board    (2QP6)
	ErnieLucier: ChrisWelty's grand challenge problem examples (from the medical field) - (i) significantly 
	improving diagnosis, especially when clear indications from test methods are not available, (ii) in 
	treatment, especially in personalizing treatment, (iii) in drug interaction, where a lot of the 
	information in drug interaction databases are still only available in English.    (2QP7)
	PeterYim: === RameshJain presenting now ...    (2QP8)
	MichaelGruninger: Are RameshJain's slides available in PDF?    (2QP9)
	PeterYim: @MichaelGruninger, there are alternate pdf versions of the slides under 
	http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2011/2011-03-24_Grand-Challenges/ ... the pdf's 
	won't carry all the information of the ppt's though    (2QPA)
	ChristopherSpottiswoode: @PeterYim: How do we see the slides in the downloaded zip files? (Please 
	excuse my ignorance!)    (2QPB)
	PeterYim: @ChristopherSpottiswoode - when your click on the slide links (like [o\0-Chair], [2-Jain], 
	etc.) they should not be zipped; it should fire up on your browser right away, or call up the 
	associated app (if your browser is configured to do it, and the right app is available)    (2QPC)
	ChrisChute: The slides (for Jain at least) do not "open up" but come down as an odd zip file.    (2QPD)
	RexBrooks: 75% own Mobile Phones? Sounds awfully high to me.    (2QPE)
	PeterYim: @MichaelGruninger - your hand is still up, can you type your question here (if you have 
	one)?    (2QPF)
	anonymous1 morphed into AnnaCianciara    (2QPG)
	AldenDima: @RexBrooks - according to Wolfram Alpha, it looks like there are 4 billion cell phones 
	(using 2004-2008 data). There are probably more now.    (2QPH)
	RexBrooks: In Emergency Management this is referred to as crowd sourcing and what the whole process 
	does is "curation" of the situation as a way to include information from the public in decision 
	making.    (2QPI)
	RexBrooks: @Alden: guess I'm just behind the the wave    (2QPJ)
	AldenDima: @Rex - me too. Still have a box full of slide rules hanging around.    (2QPK)
	AlexGarcia: I have problems opening the this speakers slides. is there just a ppt file? I opened and 
	all I got were a lot of xml files -power point does not recognize them    (2QPL)
	AlexGarcia: sorry, but it is probably me not knowing about this format for slides, I just cannot 
	open them.... I get a lot of xml files that power point can't deal with. Could someone upload the 
	ppt file for this talk?    (2QPM)
	AnnaCianciara: The pdf for this presentation seems to be available here: 
	http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2011/2011-03-24_Grand-Challenges/Ontology-based-Recognition--RameshJain_20110322a.pdf    (2QPN)
	AlexGarcia: thanks    (2QPO)
	PeterYim: @AlexGarcia - would the pdf be good enough? (if not, you might want to email RameshJain 
	yourself and ask him for a ppt version of the slides (I only received the pptx ... and any 
	conversion will be somewhat lossy)    (2QPP)
	EliotSiegel: Peter, I have a hard stop at 1:30pm Eastern time    (2QPQ)
	PeterYim: == EliotSiegel presenting ...    (2QPR)
	RameshJain: I will need to logout in 5 minutes. So any questions can be answered off-line.    (2QPS)
	PeterYim: Thank you very much, Ramesh    (2QPT)
	PeterYim: @All - Ramesh's email is available at his page on the Ontolog Wiki - 
	http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?RameshJain    (2QPU)
	anonymous2 morphed into ChrisFrangione    (2QPV)
	anonymous1 morphed into DilvanMoreira    (2QPW)
	RexBrooks: It's good to see how far these questions have been explored and difficult areas 
	identified. Getting these disparate, sometimes legally quarantined, datasources into a system that 
	will allow a genuine "Big Picture" to be developed and resourced as needed is a problem.    (2QPX)
	PeterYim: == ChrisChute presenting ...    (2QPY)
	anonymous1 morphed into DustinCote    (2QPZ)
	AlanRector: [ref. ChrisChute's reference to the person on the Stanford Protege team working on the 
	ICD-11] Her name is TaniaTudorache    (2QQ0)
	Chris Frangione: Peter - Just as an FYI, I am online with you all now.    (2QQ1)
	PeterYim: @ChrisFrangione - Hi!    (2QQ2)
	LeoObrst: Just joined, had meeting.    (2QQ3)
	AlexGarcia: I'd say how do we use more than just DL, there is ontological pluralism. OWL is not the 
	one and only    (2QQ4)
	DavidMakovoz: Question for Dr. Chute. Did you look into probabilistic ontologies?    (2QQ5)
	ChrisChute: I understand that DL subsume a family from simple FL- through SHIQ or more sophisticated 
	ones. I confess I am not familair w/ probablistic DLs, though I have heard of probablistic 
	ontologies (though I don't know as much as I should).    (2QQ6)
	DavidMakovoz: Dr. Chute. Examples of probabilistic ontologies are bayesowl, prowl. They've been 
	around for a while.    (2QQ7)
	ChrisChute: Thanks, I will look into them.    (2QQ8)
	BobbinTeegarden: I would also be interested in hearing more about 'probabilistic ontologies', a 
	future presentation here?    (2QQ9)
	AlanRector: Pragmatically, at the moment, my view is that the issue is more how to combine the 
	strengths of probabilistic systems and DLs rather than look to integration. DLs/OWL are good at 
	providing a framework, but they do only certain limited reasoning tasks.    (2QQA)
	PeterYim: @Bobbin - we had a session on Ontolog Forum on "Probabilistic Reasoning and Ontology 
	Evaluation" a little while back - (in case you weren't aware) check out 
	http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2007_03_29    (2QQB)
	BobbinTeegarden: thanks for the URL Peter.    (2QQC)
	DavidMakovoz: The 2007/03/29 conference is mostly about prowl. Bayesowl is not presented there.    (2QQD)
	PeterYim: indeed ... time to do another update session ... (please suggest to [ontolog-forum])    (2QQE)
	PeterYim: == NabilAdam presenting ...    (2QQF)
	PeterYim: == ChristopherFrangione presenting ...    (2QQG)
	AlexGarcia: Bartholomew-Frangione's slides, could someone upload a ppt or a pdf for those slides? I 
	have downloaded the zip file and it has a lot of xml, again my power point cant deal with those 
	files -probably it is just me not knowing how to deal with this files.    (2QQH)
	SteveRay: @Alex: Those slides are in .pptx format (i.e. Powerpoint 2007). For now, I suggest you 
	view the slides through the VNC shared screen viewer.    (2QQI)
	SteveRay: Thanks for a very interesting set of talks.    (2QQJ)
	PeterYim: -- session ended: 11:33am PDT --    (2QQK)
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