ppy/OntologySummit2011_session-08_chat-transcript_edited_20110324c.txt ------------- PeterYim: Welcome to the OntologySummit2011: Panel Session-8 - "Grand Challenges" - Thu 2011_03_24 Summit Theme: OntologySummit2011: Making the Case for Ontology Session Title: Grand Challenges Session Co-chairs: Dr. RamSriram (NIST), Mr. ErnieLucier (NCO_NITRD) & Dr. AldenDima (NIST) Panelists: * Dr. ChristopherWelty (IBM Research) - "The next grand challenge for Watson-like systems" * Professor RameshJain (UC Irvine) - "Ontology-based Event Recognition" * Professor EliotSiegel (U of Maryland School of Medicine, Baltimore) - "The Dr. Watson project" * Professor ChristopherChute (Mayo Clinic) - "Relationships among Biomedical Ontologies and Classifications: The ICD11 Use-case" * Professor NabilAdam (DHS, Rutgers) - "Ontology Application in Homeland Security" * Ms. EileenBartholomew (X Prize) - "Revolution through Competition: Designing effective incentive prizes" - Presented by Mr. ChristopherFrangione For details (agenda, dial-in numbers, slides, process instructions, etc.) please refer to the session page at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2011_03_24 . anonymous morphed into NabilAdam anonymous morphed into EliotSiegel anonymous morphed into MyCoyne anonymous morphed into ChrisWelty anonymous morphed into ChristopherSpottiswoode anonymous morphed into FabianNeuhaus anonymous morphed into AlexGarcia anonymous2 morphed into DavidPrice PeterYim: == session started 9:38am PDT ... RamSriram doing the opening SteveRay: Standard cheat sheet: *2 to mute; *3 to unmute PeterYim: == ChrisWelty presenting ... AlexGarcia: where are Chris slides? PeterYim: @AlexGarcia - ChrisWelty will not have slides (as indicated on the session page) PeterYim: will those participants who are still recognized as "anonymous" please morph into your real name (click on the "Settings" button at the top center and change there) so we can know who's here and properly attribute contributions anonymous1 morphed into DavidMakovoz RexBrooks: I assume that "Shallow Methods" doesn't include deep ontological resources, e.g. triplestores. Correct? If so, how was the semantic "meaning" of text sources derived? anonymous1 morphed into ChrisChute PeterYim: @RamSriram (or any of the co-chairs) - would you please capture ChrisWelty's suggested "Grand Challenge" problem(s) onto the chat-board ErnieLucier: ErnieLucier: ChrisWelty's grand challenge problem examples (from the medical field) - (i) significantly improving diagnosis, especially when clear indications from test methods are not available, (ii) in treatment, especially in personalizing treatment, (iii) in drug interaction, where a lot of the information in drug interaction databases are still only available in English. PeterYim: === RameshJain presenting now ... MichaelGruninger: Are RameshJain's slides available in PDF? PeterYim: @MichaelGruninger, there are alternate pdf versions of the slides under http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2011/2011-03-24_Grand-Challenges/ ... the pdf's won't carry all the information of the ppt's though ChristopherSpottiswoode: @PeterYim: How do we see the slides in the downloaded zip files? (Please excuse my ignorance!) PeterYim: @ChristopherSpottiswoode - when your click on the slide links (like [o\0-Chair], [2-Jain], etc.) they should not be zipped; it should fire up on your browser right away, or call up the associated app (if your browser is configured to do it, and the right app is available) ChrisChute: The slides (for Jain at least) do not "open up" but come down as an odd zip file. RexBrooks: 75% own Mobile Phones? Sounds awfully high to me. PeterYim: @MichaelGruninger - your hand is still up, can you type your question here (if you have one)? anonymous1 morphed into AnnaCianciara AldenDima: @RexBrooks - according to Wolfram Alpha, it looks like there are 4 billion cell phones (using 2004-2008 data). There are probably more now. RexBrooks: In Emergency Management this is referred to as crowd sourcing and what the whole process does is "curation" of the situation as a way to include information from the public in decision making. RexBrooks: @Alden: guess I'm just behind the the wave AldenDima: @Rex - me too. Still have a box full of slide rules hanging around. AlexGarcia: I have problems opening the this speakers slides. is there just a ppt file? I opened and all I got were a lot of xml files -power point does not recognize them AlexGarcia: sorry, but it is probably me not knowing about this format for slides, I just cannot open them.... I get a lot of xml files that power point can't deal with. Could someone upload the ppt file for this talk? AnnaCianciara: The pdf for this presentation seems to be available here: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2011/2011-03-24_Grand-Challenges/Ontology-based-Recognition--RameshJain_20110322a.pdf AlexGarcia: thanks PeterYim: @AlexGarcia - would the pdf be good enough? (if not, you might want to email RameshJain yourself and ask him for a ppt version of the slides (I only received the pptx ... and any conversion will be somewhat lossy) EliotSiegel: Peter, I have a hard stop at 1:30pm Eastern time PeterYim: == EliotSiegel presenting ... RameshJain: I will need to logout in 5 minutes. So any questions can be answered off-line. PeterYim: Thank you very much, Ramesh PeterYim: @All - Ramesh's email is available at his page on the Ontolog Wiki - http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?RameshJain anonymous2 morphed into ChrisFrangione anonymous1 morphed into DilvanMoreira RexBrooks: It's good to see how far these questions have been explored and difficult areas identified. Getting these disparate, sometimes legally quarantined, datasources into a system that will allow a genuine "Big Picture" to be developed and resourced as needed is a problem. PeterYim: == ChrisChute presenting ... anonymous1 morphed into DustinCote AlanRector: [ref. ChrisChute's reference to the person on the Stanford Protege team working on the ICD-11] Her name is TaniaTudorache Chris Frangione: Peter - Just as an FYI, I am online with you all now. PeterYim: @ChrisFrangione - Hi! LeoObrst: Just joined, had meeting. AlexGarcia: I'd say how do we use more than just DL, there is ontological pluralism. OWL is not the one and only DavidMakovoz: Question for Dr. Chute. Did you look into probabilistic ontologies? ChrisChute: I understand that DL subsume a family from simple FL- through SHIQ or more sophisticated ones. I confess I am not familair w/ probablistic DLs, though I have heard of probablistic ontologies (though I don't know as much as I should). DavidMakovoz: Dr. Chute. Examples of probabilistic ontologies are bayesowl, prowl. They've been around for a while. ChrisChute: Thanks, I will look into them. BobbinTeegarden: I would also be interested in hearing more about 'probabilistic ontologies', a future presentation here? AlanRector: Pragmatically, at the moment, my view is that the issue is more how to combine the strengths of probabilistic systems and DLs rather than look to integration. DLs/OWL are good at providing a framework, but they do only certain limited reasoning tasks. PeterYim: @Bobbin - we had a session on Ontolog Forum on "Probabilistic Reasoning and Ontology Evaluation" a little while back - (in case you weren't aware) check out http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2007_03_29 BobbinTeegarden: thanks for the URL Peter. DavidMakovoz: The 2007/03/29 conference is mostly about prowl. Bayesowl is not presented there. PeterYim: indeed ... time to do another update session ... (please suggest to [ontolog-forum]) PeterYim: == NabilAdam presenting ... PeterYim: == ChristopherFrangione presenting ... AlexGarcia: Bartholomew-Frangione's slides, could someone upload a ppt or a pdf for those slides? I have downloaded the zip file and it has a lot of xml, again my power point cant deal with those files -probably it is just me not knowing how to deal with this files. SteveRay: @Alex: Those slides are in .pptx format (i.e. Powerpoint 2007). For now, I suggest you view the slides through the VNC shared screen viewer. SteveRay: Thanks for a very interesting set of talks. PeterYim: -- session ended: 11:33am PDT -- --------------------