ConferenceCall 2006 05 18

[ontolog] Member Conference Call - Thu 2006-05-18    (N5E)

Conference Call Details    (N5F)

• Subject: [ontolog] member conference call Thu 2006-05-18    (N5G)

• Date: Thursday, May 18, 2006    (N5H)
• Start Time: 10:30 AM PDT / 1:30 PM EDT / 17:30 UTC World Clock    (N5I)
• Expected Call Duration: 1 ~ 1.5 hour    (N5J)
• Dial-in Number: 1-641-696-6600 (Iowa)    (N5K)
• Participant Access Code: "686564#"    (N5L)

• Agenda Comments:    (N5M)
  • ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items.    (N5N)
  • in particular, we will devote time into the planning of upcoming Ontolog Events    (N5O)
  • please post any suggested agenda items to the call wiki page and upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by WebDAV upload prior to the meeting    (N5P)
  • VNC session (if needed) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/    (N5Q)
    • view-only password: "ontolog"    (N5R)
    • view-and-control pw: to be supplied during session as needed    (N5S)
  • Wiki page for this call (i.e. this page) is at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2006_05_18    (N5T)

Attendees    (N5U)

• Attended:    (N5V)
  • RexBrooks    (N5Z)
  • PeterYim    (N5X)
  • KurtConrad    (NBI)
  • BobSmith    (NB1)
  • EMichaelMaximilien    (N5Y)
  • ConorShankey    (NBJ)
  • PatHeinig    (NBN)

• Expecting:    (N5W)
  • ...(add your name here)...    (N61)

• Regrets:    (N62)
  • DeniseBedford    (NAZ)
  • LisaColvin    (NB0)
  • SteveIhnen    (NB8)
  • MatthewWest    (NB9)
  • DagobertSoergel    (NBC)
  • ArturoSanchez    (NBD)
  • SteveRay    (NBG)
  • PatrickDurusau    (NBH)

Agenda Ideas (candidate items to be adopted into the agenda for discussion)    (N63)

• more planning discussion on the events and the July 2006 Ontolog face-to-face meeting (colocated and as a part of the Protege International Workshop) at Stanford, CA    (N64)
• BobSmith:    (NB2)
  • The OASIS Interoperability conference in general, and    (NB3)
  • the ebXML efforts may deserve some discussion.    (NB4)
  • Also, it might be helpful to express the direction in which the Taxo_Thesaurus Project is going, with reference to the following week's discussion.    (NB5)
• ...(add suggested items here)...    (N65)

Agenda & Proceedings    (N66)

1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda    (N67)

• RexBrooks took the chair and welcomed everyone.    (N68)

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes    (N69)

• PeterYim volunteered    (N6A)

3) Roll-call of participants    (N6B)

• see above    (N6C)

4) Upcoming meeting & event schedule (near future)    (N6D)

• Reference: Nominal meeting types (on a monthly basis):    (N6E)
  • member regular meeting    (N6F)
  • invited speaker session    (N6G)
  • scheduled discussion    (N6H)
  • project review    (N6I)
  • workshop / work session    (N6J)
  • planning    (N6K)

• Scheduled Ontolog Events (point person)    (N6L)
  • Thu 2006.06.08 - "Ontologizing the Ontolog Body of Knowledge" Discussion Session-2 - Moderators (organizers): EMichaelMaximilien & ConorShankey    (N6M)
    • Max: may want to postpone. Will discuss under item 8 on this agenda.    (NBK)
  • a Thu in Jun. 1, 2006 TBC - MatthewWest - on "ISO 18876 - integration of industrial data for exchange access and sharing (IIDEAS)" - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2006-04/msg00092.html    (NAO)
  • Thu 2006.06.22 - Ontology Applications in Emergency Response Panel Discussion - Moderators (organizers): RexBrooks & BobSmith    (N6N)
    • Peter: may request shuffling this schedule too. Will discuss under item 8 on this agenda.    (NBL)
  • Thu 2006.07.23 - Ontolog F2F Meeting and Workshop colocated with the 7th Protege International Conference (Stanford, CA) - Organizers: BobSmith & KurtConrad    (N6O)
    • organizers now changed to BobSmith, KurtConrad & RexBrooks    (NBM)
  • Thu 2006.08.24 - SOA Panel Discussion (covering SOA-RM & SOA-RA) - Moderators (organizers): DuaneNickull & RexBrooks    (N6P)

• Invited Speaker Schedule for the next 3~6 months:    (N6Q)
  • Candidate -    (N6R)
    • MikeGenesereth - EMichaelMaximilien is inviting him on behalf of our community    (N6S)
    • SimonBuckinghamShum of the Compendium Institute ( ? ; ref. post from ScottLHolmes & PeterYim's response)    (N6T)
    • LarryReeker of NIST (suggested by SusanTurnbull)    (N6U)
    • JohnSowa (suggested by BillMcCarthy)    (N6V)
  • other suggestions:    (N6W)
    • Monica: suggest inviting someone from the [regrep] group    (N6X)
    • Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel    (N6Y)
    • Peter also suggested that we should invite Dieter Fensel to talk to us some time    (N6Z)
    • Rex / Peter: XMDR - BruceBargmeyer or someone from his XMDR team    (N70)
    • PeterYim / ElisaKendall: PatHayes, DeborahMcGuinness    (N71)
    • To be brought up for discussion:    (N72)
      • ChrisMenzel: BillAndersen    (N73)
      • BrandNiemann / MarkMusen / PeterYim: Frank Hartel (NIH/NCI)    (N74)
      • BrandNiemann / PeterYim: RoyRoebuck    (N75)
      • DuaneNickull: suggesting candidates from Microsoft - Phil Berstein & Sergey Melnik - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-08/msg00027.html    (N76)
      • DuaneNickull: EricMiller, Tim Berners-Lee of W3C    (N77)
      • ChrisMenzel & PeterYim: ChrisMenzel some time early 2006 - on some of the work he is doing at Boeing)    (N78)
      • PeterBrown & PeterYim: PeterBrown some time early 2006 - on the EU project that PeterBrown has been working on in Austria: of building an "eGovernment Resources Network" - the issues relating to handling the exchange of reference information about eGovernment services across the continent - in many languages. This could serve as an interesting case study of what we are looking for from so-called "semantic web services".    (N79)
      • BrandNiemann (2005.10.15): EricPeterson - who's been working on an OWL version of the FEA-DRM and who was to lead the COSMO development subgroup in the newly formed SICoP / ONTAC-WG. The new lead is DagobertSoergel from University of Maryland; we should consider inviting him too.    (N7A)
      • MillsDavis (2005.11.26) - Conor Shankey (CEO, Visual Knowledge)    (N7B)
      • PeterYim (2005.11.28) - AdamCheyer, SRI, on the CALO project    (N7C)
      • PeterYim (Prompted by Doug Lenat's talk) - MikeGenesereth (director of the Stanford Logic Group)    (N7D)
        • EMichaelMaximilien will ping MikeGenesereth and some potential UIMA speakers on behalf of the community    (N7T)
      • BobSmith / PeterYim / EMichaelMaximilien (2006.01.23) - TomGruber    (N7E)
      • suggest we also try to invite candidate speakers to join us at weekly calls and other ontolog events so that they get more familiar with the community and vice versa    (N7F)
      • RexBrooks (2006.01.25) - JoeChiusano of Booz Allen Hamilton    (N7G)
      • PeterYim (2006.02.14) - JackPark of SRI on topic maps, openiris, tagging contents, ...    (N7H)
      • DuaneNickull (2006.02.28) - Robert Tolksdorf of Freie Universität Berlin (Germany) or someone from their group    (N7I)
        • ref. their "Semantic Technologies in Collaborative Applications (STICA 06)" - http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/inst/ag-nbi/conf/STICA06/    (N7J)
      • PeterYim - UOS 'custodians' whom we have not had a chance to hear, in more depth: JohnBateman, TillMossakowski & AldoGangemi    (N7K)
      • LeoObrst - RobinMcEntire from Glaxo Smith Klein for his application expire (he was at the NCOR inauguration)    (N7L)
      • LeoObrst - BobMcGregor from Siderean (previously ISI)    (N7M)
      • LeoObrst - others from ISI like EdHovey, SergeiNirenburg, ...    (N7N)
      • LeoObrst - RichardFikes from Stanford KSL    (N7O)
      • LeoObrst - IanHorrocks from University of Manchester    (N7P)
      • LeoObrst - PeterPatelSchneider from Bell Labs    (N7Q)
      • PeterYim & MarkMusen (new! 2006.04.29) - TimRedmond on "The Protege API"    (N7S)
      • EdDodds & PeterYim (new! 2006.05.17): John Breslin of DERI on SIOC (Semantically-Interlinked Online Communities) - ref: http://rdfs.org/sioc/ & http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2006-05/msg00014.html    (NBB)
      • PeterYim (new! 2006.05.17): PatCassidy on "From Controlled Vocabulary to Common Upper Ontology" (tentative; exact topic to be confirmed.)    (NBE)
      • PeterYim (new! 2006.05.17): JohnBateman on GUM and on Bremen Ontology Research Group's approach to Ontologizing their body of knowledge    (NBF)
      • LeoObrst / BobSmith / PeterYim (new! 2006.06.16): MartinHepp of DERI    (NY5)

• Scheduled Discussions for the next 3 months:    (N7U)
  • see above    (NAP)
  • Other candidates:    (N7X)
    • Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel    (N7Z)
    • Kurt: we should revisit "CCTS ontology" for Nov. (even Sep.) - we'll talk to Duane again if he shows up next week; if he doesn't Kurt, will ping Duane.    (N82)
    • Anders: we should have a "Tools / Testing" discussion    (N83)
    • Kurt: "on metamodels, independent of the representation" (at a level that allows us to avoid the language war)    (N84)
      • Bob: as a segway into things like pi-calculus, tec.    (N85)
    • PeterYim: "moving from data standards to data-model- and semantic-model-driven eBusiness standards"    (N86)
      • candidate panelists: BruceBarqmeyer, MarkCrawford, ElisaKendall, AdamPease, MikeDaconta, JimHendler, SteveRay (moderator?)    (N87)
      • maybe a joint SICoP-Ontolog event, as part of another Collaborative Expedition Workshop?    (N88)
    • more session for the "Ontolgy Applications and Implementations" series    (N89)
    • RexBrooks (new! - 2006.05.18) - stake in the ground - Let's do a discussion session on "registries" - maybe in Sep. 2006?    (NBO)
      • (Rex / Max): not everyone are advocating the the use of public registries as the optimal solution for SOA, though    (NBP)

• Upcoming Events of interest    (N8B)
  • May 23-24 2006 - Service Oriented Architecture for E-government Conference at MITRE - http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?SOAforEGovernment_2006_05_2324    (NBA)

5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues - no discussion    (N8C)

6) Follow-ups from previous calls    (N8D)

• A brief from the OASIS Interoperability conference and the ebXML effort (BobSmith)    (NB6)
  • Bob: a lot of what has transpired is relevant to our upcoming F2F workshop    (NBQ)
    • Ontolog is probably the largest faction that is pushing for a semantic technology solution there    (NBR)

• Engaging UN/CEFACT    (NB7)
  • Kurt: suggest we schedule a UN/CEFACT-ONTOLOG joint teleconference (hopefully on a Thursday) so that we can do a focused discussion    (N8H)
    • will need to follow-up with BillMcCarthy & AndersTell    (NBS)
    • Rex: there will be a joint OASIS-ITU conference in Oct. 2006 (UN/CEFACT & ebXML is related somehow)    (NBT)

• Bob and Nicolas will work on the ontological lessons learned in our exercise on RegularConferenceCall scheduling -- (Bob / Nicolas - please bring closure to this item) - discussion postponed (unless we have time) - Bob agreed that's we will take this off the agenda.    (N8I)

7) Current Project Status Report    (N8J)

• Ontolog support letter to MarkMusen / Protege project - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2006-03/msg00032.html    (NAR)
  • Letter despatched by KurtConrad on behalf of our community - see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2006-04/msg00084.html (Thanks, Kurt!)    (NAS)

• Status CctRepresentation and UblOntology project work - no new update    (N8K)
  • Requirements issues (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UseCases)    (N8L)
  • Formalization issues    (N8M)
  • [CCT-Rep] status report    (N8N)

• Status of ProtegeKIF project work - no new update    (N8O)

• status of NHIN-RFI & Health-Ont project work - no new update    (N8P)

• report on UpperOntologySummit follow-up work    (NAT)
  • paper submitted (2006.05.08) for presentation at FOIS-2006 (Baltimore, USA, November 9-11, 2006) - LeoObrst et al.    (NAU)
  • whitepaper for The Applied Ontology Journal submitted (2006.05.12) - LeoObrst et al.    (NAV)

• status of OntologTaxoThesaurus project work - see discussion under item 8    (NAW)

• UBL liaison report - no new update    (N8Q)

• SICoP / ONTAC liaison report - no new update    (N8R)

• NCOR relationship - pending - no new update    (N8S)

• Planning team report - see item 8 below    (N8T)

8) Key Issues discussion:    (N8U)

• Planning our events for the next quarter    (N8V)
  • worksheet updated - see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/Ontolog-planning/Ontolog_Event_Plan_2006.doc (current version) ... also ref: working copy (during this call)    (N8W)

• Scheduled discussion events:    (NAX)
  • Thu 2006.06.08 - "Ontologizing the Ontolog Body of Knowledge" Discussion Session-2 - Moderators (organizers): EMichaelMaximilien & Conor Shankey    (N6M)
    • shifting this (tentatively) to 2006.07.15    (NBW)
  • Thu 2006.06.22 - Ontology Applications in Emergency Response Panel Discussion - Moderators (organizers): RexBrooks & BobSmith    (N6N)
    • may shift this to "after the 2006.07.23 face-to-face" -- tentatively 2006.08.10    (NBX)
  • Thu 2006.08.24 - SOA Panel Discussion (covering SOA-RM & SOA-RA) - Moderators (organizers): DuaneNickull & RexBrooks    (N6P)

• dates being shuffled - Peter will coordinate with Max, Conor, Natasha, Rex and Bob to try to fit everything in - Ref: working copy of planner.    (NBY)
  • ideally:    (NC2)
    • 2006.06.01 - Application Integration / ISO 18876    (NC3)
    • 2006.06.08 - no (special) event    (NC3)
    • Tagging Session2 - 2006.06.15    (NC4)
    • (update: no special event now - was:) Protege Ontology Development - 2006.06.22    (NCP)
      • (update: have to postpone this to another time ... conclusion from a phone conversation between Peter and Natasha. =ppy/2006.05.18-15:20)    (NC5)
    • Protege architecture & API - 2006.06.29    (NC6)
    • 2006.07.06 - no (special) event    (NC7)
    • From Controlled Vocabulary to Formal Ontology - 2006.07.13    (NC8)
    • Ontolog F2F workshop - 2006.07.23    (NC9)
  • Peter will try to tie all the dates down within this week    (NBZ)

• Ontolog face-to-face workshop at the Ninth International Protege Conference that is scheduled to be held July 23-26, 2006 in Stanford, California? -- ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2006-02/msg00028.html    (N9I)
  • ref: OntologWorkshop_July_2006 & OntologWorkshop_July_2006/WorkshopCfp    (NAY)
  • Kurt: draft letter just circulated    (NC0)
  • Rex: will be able to bring in speakers from OASIS, ... etc.    (NBU)
  • Peter: need to get the annoucnement and CFP out ASAP    (NBV)
    • also: note registration requirements and deadlines for the Protege Conference (attendees to the workshop needs to be registered as a Protege Conference attendee.)    (NC1)

9) New project proposals - no discussion    (NA2)

10) Sponsorship and funding - no discussion    (NA3)

11) Other business - discussion deferred    (NA4)

• Should we have a joint presence at OIS2006? - OIS2006: 1st International Workshop on Ontologizing Industrial Standards    (NA5)
  • this is exactly what we said we'll strive to do on our charter! - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nidB    (NA6)
  • November 6-9, 2006 - Tucson, Arizona, USA - colocated with the 25th International Conference on Conceptual Modeling (ER2006)    (NA7)
  • see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2006-03/msg00020.html & http://events.deri.at/ois2006/    (NA8)
  • EMichaelMaximilien is in contact with some of these people ... he can help relay questions if we have any    (NA9)
  • conflict with 5th International Semantic Web Conference (same week, but in Athens, Georgia)    (NAA)
  • abstract deadline is May 1, 2006 (so we still have some time to get organized if we want to really do something)    (NAB)
  • this is definitely relevant to us ... let's think things over and come back for more discussion at the next call    (NAC)

12) Next meeting date and adjourn    (NAK)

• Our next meeting/callwill be next Thu 2006.05.25 - part of the call will be devoted to discussion of the recently established OntologTaxoThesaurus project    (NAL)
• this call adjourned 11:56 am PDT    (NAM)

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